Parthian grivpanvar ACCEPTED
Parthian grivpanvar ACCEPTED
Unit description : The Grivpanvar (literally: neck-guard wearer) were an elite late Parthian and Sasanian division who fought as heavy cataphract cavalry. Best used against enemy horse riders.
Weapons and tactics used by the Grivpanvars were analogous to those of cataphract cavalry. Clad in chain mail with a breastplate and strong scale armour, they were armed with the famed Kontos lance used by many Iranian peoples during antiquity. To supplement their lances, it is possible that the Grivpanvar also carried armaments for use at close quarters such as long swords and maces.Their military tactics were also similar to the cataphracts and used “shock tactics” to wear down the enemy with successive cavalry charges prior to the administration of the final coup de grâce.
Stats:
Categories :
Heavy cavalry,Camel rider,Anti-mounted
Cost: 7
Trained at : Stables
Hitpoints : 37
Attack : 9
Speed : 4
Armor : 5/2
Sight : 4
Spell resist : 75%
Heal bonus: 1.0
Active effects : Camel fear
Bonuses :
+40% vs melee foot, ranged, siege
+60% vs heavy cavalry
+125% vs heavy melee.
Weapons and tactics used by the Grivpanvars were analogous to those of cataphract cavalry. Clad in chain mail with a breastplate and strong scale armour, they were armed with the famed Kontos lance used by many Iranian peoples during antiquity. To supplement their lances, it is possible that the Grivpanvar also carried armaments for use at close quarters such as long swords and maces.Their military tactics were also similar to the cataphracts and used “shock tactics” to wear down the enemy with successive cavalry charges prior to the administration of the final coup de grâce.
Stats:
Categories :
Heavy cavalry,Camel rider,Anti-mounted
Cost: 7
Trained at : Stables
Hitpoints : 37
Attack : 9
Speed : 4
Armor : 5/2
Sight : 4
Spell resist : 75%
Heal bonus: 1.0
Active effects : Camel fear
Bonuses :
+40% vs melee foot, ranged, siege
+60% vs heavy cavalry
+125% vs heavy melee.
Last edited by Badnorth on Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:20 am, edited 8 times in total.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
The unit sprite.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
so, this would be a cataphract style camel ride right?
Re: Parthian grivpanvar
If so, it should be more similar to cataphract.
And I am not sure we really need another anti-cavalry unit (proposed stats would make him better anti-mounted than mameluks).
My proposition - another shield knight version, but with anti-heavy infantry spec and of course - camel aura.
And I am not sure we really need another anti-cavalry unit (proposed stats would make him better anti-mounted than mameluks).
My proposition - another shield knight version, but with anti-heavy infantry spec and of course - camel aura.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
sounds powerful hmm...
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Should I keep the current bonuses or replace it with anti-heavy infantry ?
So make the armor 2/6 ?
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2/6?QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:41 amShould I keep the current bonuses or replace it with anti-heavy infantry ?
So make the armor 2/6 ?
if its gonna be like cataphract, then 6/3 should be ok right?
Re: Parthian grivpanvar
If I remember shield knight is 2/6 , I'll change it to 6/2 and buff the hp to match stats with cataphract.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
There should be a tech to provide camel cavalry eg. Camelry tech
Or else they'd be too common in stables or a new production factory to train them.
Horse cavalry should have decreased movement on sand terrain while camel cavalry should have boosts imho. Horses were bad in that kind of terrain .
Or else they'd be too common in stables or a new production factory to train them.
Horse cavalry should have decreased movement on sand terrain while camel cavalry should have boosts imho. Horses were bad in that kind of terrain .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
mmh, just drop the speed on desert terrain and maybe the attack too, camel shouldnt rise them
Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Yeah drop speed by -1 horses were easily exhausted, dehydrated and not suited in that kind of terrain.
Ok, any agreement between stats ?
Ok, any agreement between stats ?
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
About sprite, should I make the camel mount more armoured ?
On sources some are front armored and some are completely enclosed .
On sources some are front armored and some are completely enclosed .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Does anyone think its overpowered?
Im a beginner at balancing units so I couldn't confirm it .
Im a beginner at balancing units so I couldn't confirm it .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
its a 6 turns unit...
Re: Parthian grivpanvar
I think armor is too high so I'll change it .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
well i think unlike mamluke he could use a mace to attack causing bonus damage to heavy troops, having only 1 range and having 5 camel fear range instead of 4.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Thanks to camel fear along with armor values current stats would make this unit practically immune vs any cavalry, while dealing them tremendous 36 power attack.
That's twice of mameluk, with better defense, being only 40% costier.
Unit should either be good at defense or offence.
My proposition is clear - let it be more resilent than mameluk, but with worse offense and anti-heavy spec.
E.g. 37hp, armor should be ok, power should be ok.
1.0 bonus healing and bonuses changed to:
+40% vs melee foot, ranged, siege, +60% vs heavy cavalry, +125% vs heavy melee.
That's twice of mameluk, with better defense, being only 40% costier.
Unit should either be good at defense or offence.
My proposition is clear - let it be more resilent than mameluk, but with worse offense and anti-heavy spec.
E.g. 37hp, armor should be ok, power should be ok.
1.0 bonus healing and bonuses changed to:
+40% vs melee foot, ranged, siege, +60% vs heavy cavalry, +125% vs heavy melee.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Updated
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
I agree to
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
More armor added on the mount.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Some changes and Fixes .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
iis it my imagination or the camel has red eyes?
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
No,me too,i see red eyes.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
No colored eyes Allowed I guess
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
Its team color.
Is it really a big deal? I'll change it .
Is it really a big deal? I'll change it .
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
we have to make it as historical as ever cause we are HISTORIANS!! HAROO!! FOR HISTORY!!
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
I made the armor completely enclosed .
It seems the first one I made fits and looks the most nice.
The current one I made looks horrible, too much armor.
It seems the first one I made fits and looks the most nice.
The current one I made looks horrible, too much armor.
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
this one looks betterQuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:08 am More armor added on the mount.
Heaby camel riderrr.png
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Re: Parthian grivpanvar
I'll improve the Camel Cataphract's image. Currently it looks messy in mount armor.
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