PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall IMPLEMENTED

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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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What i have proposed:
Blow up goblin ability for goblin spiker:
All stay the same except:
Effect on target - 24 hp all, except hamletback, hamletback elite&master
Effect on itself - 1000 hp all
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall

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Vladneral wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 4:50 pm What i have proposed:
Blow up goblin ability for goblin spiker:
All stay the same except:
Effect on target - 24 hp all, except hamletback, hamletback elite&master
Effect on itself - 1000 hp all
Actually...
Why not change ability itself next way:
1. Add positive 200% bonus to hamletbacks
2. Add additional effect on self — -1000 hp

Along with upcoming removal of % based heal from orc shamans (they will use regular heal via heal rates) and moving it to ogre mage for savages sub (8 turn cost pure caster) that will be enough.
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall

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this seems stucked
- can we get to a conclusion some way?
- if anyone has yet responed please ask him to.
- if i am wrong and here is a conclusion somewhere please summarize me

thanks!
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall

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1. Corpse looting removal from goblin spikers (all tiers)
2. Give for grenade ability 200% bonus to hamletbacks and give extra -1000 hp effect to caster only.
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall

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ok!
@Vladneral please say it is ok for you too - thanks!
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall

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It is ok
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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meanwhile experimentally we set a probability for goblin falling that seems working, would that also be a solution? eg. a 25% chance to drop goblin?
(instead of the other changes)
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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It will make this unit too weak in this case i must say.
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so should i use higher percent?

like 50%?
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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Even 80% will make it nerfed a lot.
Later if ettin change i want is accepted i will remake hamletback in some similar way as well (mainly in cost increase).

But goblin fall for it i want to have 100%.
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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ok, than i make the
Corpse looting removal from goblin spikers (all tiers)
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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this is ready:
Corpse looting removal from goblin spikers (all tiers)
the other one i dont really understand yet
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Re: PRI#2 Hamletback Goblin Fall SOLUTION_ACCEPTED

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i made this:
the EFFECT_INSTANT_GOBLIN_GRENADE (most goblins have this effect)
will cost a EFFECT_KILL_UNIT for the caster (the goblin using it)

i hope this is what you ment.
so important: not only goblin spiker but ALL such effect users will change this way.

i hope it is good.

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