Elven Mount & Bow Too Costly IMPLEMENTED

[Aral_Yaren]

It costs 9 turn for just +1 range. Moreover, it needs to complete bowcraft lv. 3 and mounting just to research it. So I suggest these approaches:

1. Make it researchable after completed a single tech only (mounting) and reduce cost to 6 turn or,

2. Add attack to it (+3).

Thanks.

[makazuwr32]

No extra attack will be given to this tech for sure.
Alas we might a bit later either reduce cost or remove some requirements to research it so you can research it earlier (but not both).

[Stratego (dev)]

pleae others confirm if this is a balance problem

[Aral_Yaren]

YES

Quick way to solve is to remove Bowcraft lv. 3 from the requirement.

[Vladneral]

I arguing about that in discord when this tech appears.

I feel that this tech now requested only for elite and sea units cause this tech for late game - using common cavalry archers for late game no sence for me.
And for early game they have less range compared to foot units so i see no reason to use common cavalry archers at all now.

And in this case i remind about centaur problem:

Should not affect on him:
- nature tech
- elven mount bow

Should affect on milee variant:
- fencing finesse (all 3lvl)

[makazuwr32]

Removal requirement of tier 3 bow tech for it is fine but it still must require mounting tech.

No further cost reduction or additional stats given via tech are required though.

And in this case i remind about centaur problem:

Should not affect on him:
- nature tech
- elven mount bow

Should affect on milee variant:
- fencing finesse (all 3lvl)

I would add here since you reminded:
Precision shot techs also must not affect it.

[Stratego (dev)]

so is here a consensus?
what should i change? (oi was not sure i understood everything above)

[makazuwr32]

Currently mount and bow tech is locked behind both mounting tech and tier 3 archery tech.

Remove tier 3 archery tech from requirements to unlock this tech.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok! and this is that everyone accepts?

[Aral_Yaren]

Yes, as I stated early.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, i did it like it will only require the mounting tech.
i hope that is ok.

[makazuwr32]

Removal requirement of tier 3 bow tech for it is fine but it still must require mounting tech.

No further cost reduction or additional stats given via tech are required though.

And in this case i remind about centaur problem:

Should not affect on him:
- nature tech
- elven mount bow

Should affect on milee variant:
- fencing finesse (all 3lvl)

I would add here since you reminded:
Precision shot techs also must not affect it.

Can you also fix this in case of centaur?

[Vladneral]

Khm, why not about precision shot ?
Maybe then fensing finesse should not either
But centaur will not have much damage without nature tech also. I see no problem about 3lvl precision shot techs - that just 3 more damage.

[makazuwr32]

Fencing finesse and precision shot techs both must be exclusively for elves. Not for centaurs, not for mermen or some other units.

[Vladneral]

Well by logic i agree but maybe in future - when centaurs will get exclusive techs. But now not looks like many people use centaurs - with this techs they have a chance : /

[makazuwr32]

They already are worth to train since they have astounding amount of 200 health for shooter (2nd place in terms of health among all races without counting subs loosing only to elephant archers!) along with exceptional attack for unit whom you can train already after you finish archery range.

Not sure about you but for me centaurs right now are most powerful unit of elven cavalry or shooters up until you max out all upgrades for elves.