Issues reported on discord
Issues reported on discord
I've heard several issues on discord channels that i cannot answer:
1) Olags are trolls but do not have the troll label (ie melee, foot, etc but troll is not listed) - does this effect things like burn?
2) Hardened Shells tech includes Carnotaur Lancer but not Carnotaur Prowler
3) fire on bldgs can be disenchanted, which means it can be done from a great distance - isn't that illogical
4) 1v1 multiplay games are sometimes freezing when 1 player resigns, locking the other out of claiming victory
5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
1) Olags are trolls but do not have the troll label (ie melee, foot, etc but troll is not listed) - does this effect things like burn?
2) Hardened Shells tech includes Carnotaur Lancer but not Carnotaur Prowler
3) fire on bldgs can be disenchanted, which means it can be done from a great distance - isn't that illogical
4) 1v1 multiplay games are sometimes freezing when 1 player resigns, locking the other out of claiming victory
5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
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1. Yes they are still burnable as trolls.diesel wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:12 pm I've heard several issues on discord channels that i cannot answer:
1) Olags are trolls but do not have the troll label (ie melee, foot, etc but troll is not listed) - does this effect things like burn?
2) Hardened Shells tech includes Carnotaur Lancer but not Carnotaur Prowler
3) fire on bldgs can be disenchanted, which means it can be done from a great distance - isn't that illogical
4) 1v1 multiplay games are sometimes freezing when 1 player resigns, locking the other out of claiming victory
5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
2. Fixed in dev version i think.
3. That is problem of disenchant spell itself since it can remove ANY debuffs on ally and ANY buffs on enemy regardless of their scource and type. Even auras from other units can be removed. We will change that during magic update (one of main reasons why that is required).
4. Can't help here, multiplayer or engine issues. @Stratego (dev) can you check that?
5. Hm. That will require help of @Stratego (dev) i think.
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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if it is possible so exclude things now than dont need to be during magic update.3. That is problem of disenchant spell itself since it can remove ANY debuffs regardless of their scource and type. We will change that during magic update (one of main reasons why that is required).
so it can be handled out of magic update pack.
i would love to but as i have never experienced i need an example.4. Can't help here, multiplayer or engine issues. can you check that?
Diesel: if u would make game and i join and you resing i might see what is happening.
lost? what do u mean? i dont really understand.5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
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Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:49 pmi would love to but as i have never experienced i need an example.4. Can't help here, multiplayer or engine issues. can you check that?
Diesel: if u would make game and i join and you resing i might see what is happening.
it just happened so i will ask for the actual screenshots from them
if u press the button for gem mine to produce cart, it will not appear (because it cant) but CD resets for the next oneStratego (dev) wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:49 pmlost? what do u mean? i dont really understand.5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
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It is not possible i think.Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:49 pmif it is possible so exclude things now than dont need to be during magic update.3. That is problem of disenchant spell itself since it can remove ANY debuffs regardless of their scource and type. We will change that during magic update (one of main reasons why that is required).
so it can be handled out of magic update pack.
We can separate dispel into 2 abilities — one that targets enemies and one that targets allies — but we can't right now make dispel not affecting for example minotaur charge effect or any runic effects. Auras also are removable.
I have found way to fix that but for that we need to apply categorisation to all abilities and effects first.
We will have 3 abilities which will target specific categories of effects — "magic non-runic non-crystal buffs", "magic non-runic non-crystal debuffs" and "physical debuffs". Each ability will reduce timer left until effect will vanish by some amount — probably 2 or 3 turns.
Physical debuffs are for example poison, burning dot effects, chilling on-hit effect, lots of planned other on-hit effects for future, some natural abilities of units — skeleton hydra gaze abilities for example.
It is not something we can make for few hours.
Dispel itself will be kept but on much more powerful and costly units and will be renamed into "nullify".
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
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looking from the other direction can you simply make structures immune/untargetable by dispell?
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Yes we can but than you will not be able to remove debuffs we planned for mechanical units and buildings.
Curse for example.
And we planned to give for it 5 turns length. How will you reactivate building under curse without dispel?
Curse for example.
And we planned to give for it 5 turns length. How will you reactivate building under curse without dispel?
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
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ohh yes the powerful curse, is that the only spell that effects structures? isnt it strange u can curse a building?
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Right now yes.
In plans we have there are at least 15 more spells (8 of which will be for undead) which will affect building with some debuff.
Curse will be separated into 2 spells — one for units and one for buildings.
In plans we have there are at least 15 more spells (8 of which will be for undead) which will affect building with some debuff.
Curse will be separated into 2 spells — one for units and one for buildings.
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
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however until any magic update we can simply remove from valid targets the buildings (good idea!).
and when "magic update" comes it can change.
and when "magic update" comes it can change.
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It is not good since ud than will have huge advantage when siege enemy base — they would be able to disable enemy buildings via curse spell without any counter measure possible for any race including undeads.Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:27 pm however until any magic update we can simply remove from valid targets the buildings (good idea!).
and when "magic update" comes it can change.
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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@Stratego (dev) the two players have multiple frozen games, they will "send to dev" one of those games right now
i dont think i can contribute with curse, mak is correct its tough to deal with mummies turning your defenses off, i was just reporting the disenchant issue
i dont think i can contribute with curse, mak is correct its tough to deal with mummies turning your defenses off, i was just reporting the disenchant issue
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i will not see anythign from that
we can only do it the way i wrote.
we can only do it the way i wrote.
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ok, i am not available to play atm sorry, i will let you know...
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actually we would not play, we would start and on next turn you resign so i see the thing.
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@Stratego (dev) ok cool, yeah im back and done with my day
im not on dev version is that ok?
ill ask them now what game they played
im not on dev version is that ok?
ill ask them now what game they played
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2 player Njorlund, twice.
Player 1 resigned part way thru and deleted game.
Player 2 attempted to play, but it still said Player 1s turn.
I told Player 1 to go back in but its frozen.
Player 1 resigned part way thru and deleted game.
Player 2 attempted to play, but it still said Player 1s turn.
I told Player 1 to go back in but its frozen.
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im playing dwarfs now and its fine, cart is not disappearing. it was an older prob so guess its fixed5) mine carts are simply lost when no tile is available to materialize - can a warning be added like with megas - "no space available to build"
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we've somehow got a couple more frozen, seems so far when the creator resigns. in some cases the game cannot be deleted from the list either
i joined a couple tries but have not personally experienced it yet
EDIT GOT IT! ... on our live game channel a player has been creating games to learn, so he resigns when it starts but stays in game watching the others...
these are freezing for all players saying its still Player 2 for instance, but player 2 ended turn. We finally managed to delete the frozen games by reinstalling the app