Work support

[Maxbirykov2004]

Guys looks like work was stopped. I do this second time, so L4cus could you post Spanish and English units stats (and help with .json (information how work with 64×128 ), drejedan and squirrel5555 could you post new pictures of units and also post units descriptions.

[Maxbirykov2004]

This theme lost its interest...

[DreJaDe]

Sry but I don't understand. Can you give more details on what you mean?

[Maxbirykov2004]

Sry but I don't understand. Can you give more details on what you mean?

Second day no posts, and i need to "refresh" this theme

[Squirrel5555]

Didn't know this was a work camp. Last time I checked I was doing this for fun in my spare time, among other projects, probably the same for the others too

[Maxbirykov2004]

Didn't know this was a work camp. Last time I checked I was doing this for fun in my spare time, among other projects, probably the same for the others too

Im sorry, but i need to somehow rise our activity...

[L4cus]

Idk why, but i wasnt able to entr to the forum page. So right now i could. Idk if this happen often to u, but this is my 2nd time.
But i am here now, so i will back to work

[Stratego (dev)]

please use this link to forum: https://www.ageofstrategy.net/
this always point to forum - even if i re-coil the url (to avoid spmmer bots or other thing making the server down or loaded)

[L4cus]

Guys looks like work was stopped. I do this second time, so L4cus could you post Spanish and English units stats (and help with .json (information how work with 64×128 ), drejedan and squirrel5555 could you post new pictures of units and also post units descriptions.

About 64x128 images, here is the part of json:

imgName":"unit_eng_ship_carrack.png",
"type":"DEFAULT",
"shiftIndicatorsDown":0,
"typeExtra":0.0,
"imgColumns":1,
"imageDefParts":[
{
"cropToRect":{"top": 0,"left":0,"bottom":64,"right":64},
"layer":"OVERLAPS",
"shiftCol":0,
"shiftRow":-1,
"clickable":false
},
{
"cropToRect":{"top":64,"left":0,"bottom":128,"right":64},
"layer":"UNITS",
"shiftCol":0,
"shiftRow":0,
"clickable":true



There is a topic about this at modders lounge

[Maxbirykov2004]

Guys looks like work was stopped. I do this second time, so L4cus could you post Spanish and English units stats (and help with .json (information how work with 64×128 ), drejedan and squirrel5555 could you post new pictures of units and also post units descriptions.

About 64x128 images, here is the part of json:

imgName":"unit_eng_ship_carrack.png",
"type":"DEFAULT",
"shiftIndicatorsDown":0,
"typeExtra":0.0,
"imgColumns":1,
"imageDefParts":[
{
"cropToRect":{"top": 0,"left":0,"bottom":64,"right":64},
"layer":"OVERLAPS",
"shiftCol":0,
"shiftRow":-1,
"clickable":false
},
{
"cropToRect":{"top":64,"left":0,"bottom":128,"right":64},
"layer":"UNITS",
"shiftCol":0,
"shiftRow":0,
"clickable":true



There is a topic about this at modders lounge

Thank you, i right now start recoding late knight

[Maxbirykov2004]

Squirrel5555 and Drejan could you paint some units?

[L4cus]

Squirrel5555 and Drejan could you paint some units?

@Maxbirykov i did some changes at units stats
U should check it...

[L4cus]

please use this link to forum: https://www.ageofstrategy.net/
this always point to forum - even if i re-coil the url (to avoid spmmer bots or other thing making the server down or loaded)

Stratego, we got a doubt.
Are we able to make 128x64 sprites for some units.
The bayonet amd the musket is a long combination son it uses to exeed the determined space

[Stratego (dev)]

sure! (if 128 is vertical size and top "tile" can overlap the tile above)

here is an example from AOW

[L4cus]

Thanks

[DreJaDe]

sure! (if 128 is vertical size and top "tile" can overlap the tile above)

here is an example from AOW

I'm not sure but I think what he means is the sides not the top. If an image can be more than 64 px in length not the height.

[L4cus]

Exactly, the v2 image is 64x128. I mean 128x64
Like tiger tank at age of strategy (the cannon overlaps the right or the left side)

[Stratego (dev)]

in general not good as overlapping will not work nice in some cases (eg. if the gun barrel goes tru the 64 px: one case the gun can go behind another unit beside this, other case will appear over it.

so strongly un-advised to do it.

however it will not make the game crash, in aow we have 2-3 extra tanks that had to exceed the 64px in horizontal - but again: not advised.


so if u need to you nee to ldo it VERY rarely (so not on mayority of units, but only one or two) and never overlap up to 128 only maximum 70-72px

my genral suggestions if we talk about human units:
a) use the 3 unit squad appearance like in AOW(see attached image) - worked well as the tanks are much bigger in real life so looks better a smaller soldier figure than a man having almost a tank size.
b) or use smaller unit images (that will never exceed 64 px)


i recommend "a" as i think you will also need some big war machines/cannons that should look good beside soldiers. (also ships needs to be in 64px, those will look better with smaller soldier figures)

[Maxbirykov2004]

Squirrel5555 and Drejan could you paint some units?

@Maxbirykov i did some changes at units stats
U should check it...

Ok

[Squirrel5555]

Oo i actually like that idea, have mutliple soldiers in one image, would loook better with the cannons as some will have to be horse drawn, and it would be a struggle to make the calibres look different in the scale we use right now.

But that will be a lot of work lol

[DreJaDe]

I remember asking about that at the ideas part.

Now, what's the decision.

Does the current one will be continued or the 3 unit like what Stratego suggested.

[Stratego (dev)]

sorry if i was addressed the question and was not answered back then.

however: not necessarily 3 units. can be one - but much smaller to have space for bigger mechanical and such units.

[Stratego (dev)]

here are one of the image resized to 50% in quick 10seconds
and standalone - not squad
they might need polishing but not that bad.

one without scale filter
other with linear filter

[Stratego (dev)]

or here is a 64px->42px resize (about 65%) nofilter

Musketeer_42px_nofilter.png (1.36 KiB) Viewed 2103 times

[DreJaDe]

or here is a 64px->42px resize (about 65%) nofilter
Musketeer_42px_nofilter.png

How do you do the linear filter though?

I'll wait for L4cus decision also

[Maxbirykov2004]

Hmm i think resizing is not bad...

[Squirrel5555]

Im not sure, the period in this game, battle lines were tightly packed, if they are small and only one in each tile they will look very spaced out, maybe better with multiple per tile. That would be fine for irregualrs but im not sure for line infantry

[L4cus]

For line infantry its still possible, sticking resized units to look like a line formation maybe with 4 units per tile
Since light infantry used spray formation only 3 units pdr tile is ok
I like resizing idea, it will be very helpfull for drawig and looking. Also, units will be smaller than a cog (previously not)

[Stratego (dev)]

or here is a 64px->42px resize (about 65%) nofilter
Musketeer_42px_nofilter.png

How do you do the linear filter though?

I'll wait for L4cus decision also

i use Gimp, and when i say layer/scale there is a lookup where i can selecvt filtering for scaling (how pixels are calculated with sorrounding pixels), it can be cubic, nofilter, linear, and some other.
try all.

[L4cus]

When i try to atach the screenshot jumps a mesage sayong its too large.
Also, i got a problem trying to put the new images(the small versions) at map editor