Armies of the Dark Lord — ARCHIVED
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Armies of the Dark Lord — ARCHIVED
Part of the overall redesign on elites and subraces. This one is the uruk line, but I intend to add a few more so it's not so bare
Call to Mordor
Cost 6, unlocks tier 1
Tier 1
All current uruks, except olog
Black Gate
Cost 4
Hp 90
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0
Black Wall
Cost 4
Hp 130
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0
Black Tower
Cost 7
Hp 110
Armor 2/15
Power 7
Range 6
Actions 3
Capacity 2
Heal rate 4
(Stone pile and stone shelter are to be locked down an alternative line. These are more appropriate for a LOTR theme)
Emissaries of the Dark Lord
Cost 7, unlocks tier 2
Tier 2
Uruk upgrades 1-2
Minas Morgul
Cost 25
Hp 1200
Armor 4/15
Power 7 (fear weapon)
Range 6
Actions 2
Size 2x3
Capacity 4
Heal rate 4
Can build uruks, ologs, and any other units in this line.
Oaths to the Eye
Cost 8, unlocks tier 3
Tier 3
Olog Hai
Uruk upgrade 3
More to follow later. Any LOTR obsessed individuals *cough* LordOfAles *cough* are encouraged to offer further suggestions.
Call to Mordor
Cost 6, unlocks tier 1
Tier 1
All current uruks, except olog
Black Gate
Cost 4
Hp 90
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0
Black Wall
Cost 4
Hp 130
Armor 4/15
Power 1 (fear weapon)
Actions 0
Black Tower
Cost 7
Hp 110
Armor 2/15
Power 7
Range 6
Actions 3
Capacity 2
Heal rate 4
(Stone pile and stone shelter are to be locked down an alternative line. These are more appropriate for a LOTR theme)
Emissaries of the Dark Lord
Cost 7, unlocks tier 2
Tier 2
Uruk upgrades 1-2
Minas Morgul
Cost 25
Hp 1200
Armor 4/15
Power 7 (fear weapon)
Range 6
Actions 2
Size 2x3
Capacity 4
Heal rate 4
Can build uruks, ologs, and any other units in this line.
Oaths to the Eye
Cost 8, unlocks tier 3
Tier 3
Olog Hai
Uruk upgrade 3
More to follow later. Any LOTR obsessed individuals *cough* LordOfAles *cough* are encouraged to offer further suggestions.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Ummm, if you do the upgrades for uruks right now without getting troll upgraded and such you'll end up with according to this, Uruks xp3 and Olog xp 1 I suggest allowing ologs to come in with rest of uruks and just have the other tiers effect only the upgrades and builds.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Half of the post doesn't canonically make sense.
Changes:
1. Uruk-Hai were breed of orc and humans, made in Isengard. Black Uruks were uruks made in mordor (of course not bred). Remove uruk hais from post.
2. Olog Hais weren't half uruk half trolls. They were advanced trolls immune to sunlight so i want to exclude them as well from the list.
3. Only iconic monuments and buildings in mordor have "Black" in their name. Black Gate, Black Towers (The towers at the gate) etc. Name these "Mordor Gates", "Mordor Walls", etc.
4. Minas Morgul is a MUST unique building. There is only one and only Minas Morgul. Also Minas Morgul tower doesn't just "shoot". It emmits fear so fear aura of 2-3 would make sense with no ranged attack.
Suggestions:
1. Nazguls and Nazgul Riders trainable at Minas Morgul.
Nazgul cost 5
Nazgul Rider cost 6
Fell Beast Rider cost 7
2. Mordor Orc Pit
Changes:
1. Uruk-Hai were breed of orc and humans, made in Isengard. Black Uruks were uruks made in mordor (of course not bred). Remove uruk hais from post.
2. Olog Hais weren't half uruk half trolls. They were advanced trolls immune to sunlight so i want to exclude them as well from the list.
3. Only iconic monuments and buildings in mordor have "Black" in their name. Black Gate, Black Towers (The towers at the gate) etc. Name these "Mordor Gates", "Mordor Walls", etc.
4. Minas Morgul is a MUST unique building. There is only one and only Minas Morgul. Also Minas Morgul tower doesn't just "shoot". It emmits fear so fear aura of 2-3 would make sense with no ranged attack.
Suggestions:
1. Nazguls and Nazgul Riders trainable at Minas Morgul.
Nazgul cost 5
Nazgul Rider cost 6
Fell Beast Rider cost 7
2. Mordor Orc Pit
3. Black Uruk BarracksCost: 3
Hp: 20
Armor: 1/7
Trains:
Mordor Orc Warrior cost 1
Mordor Orc Archer cost 1
Mordor Orc Spearman cost 1
Researches "Orc Draught" tech
4. Troll CageCost: 15
Hp: 50
Armor: 2/8
Trains:
Black Uruk Warrior cost 4
Black Uruk Archer cost 4
Black Uruk Pikeman cost 4
I will make separate topics to describe each unit and building soon. I made this on the run and maybe i will suggest some more ideas later.Cost: 20
Hp: 60
Armor: 1/10
Trains:
Mordor Troll cost 5
Mordor Troll Drummer cost 4
Olog Hai (An actual olog hai) cost 7
I am, indeed, a big Witch King and Middle Earth fan if you didn't notice.
Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
You could call the Olog Hai a Morder Olog hai. It would avoid confusion between the age of fantasy variant and the actual Lotr variant. Also you could add morder warg riders, since wargs were in morder as well. In fact they originated from their.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
I wanted to add wargs but, too little units for a building. Warg rider, warg (ai-controlled) warg kamikaze.
Also i wanted to add for now:
TIER 1:
Mordor Orc Pit and it's trainables
TIER 2:
Minas Morgul and Nazgul and Nazgul Rider
Black Uruk Barracks and Black Uruk Warrior
TIER 3:
Fell Beast Rider, Black Uruk Pikeman, Black Uruk Archer, Troll Cage and it's trainables.
Also i wanted to add for now:
TIER 1:
Mordor Orc Pit and it's trainables
TIER 2:
Minas Morgul and Nazgul and Nazgul Rider
Black Uruk Barracks and Black Uruk Warrior
TIER 3:
Fell Beast Rider, Black Uruk Pikeman, Black Uruk Archer, Troll Cage and it's trainables.
I am, indeed, a big Witch King and Middle Earth fan if you didn't notice.
Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Warg rider archer
Warg rider
Feral warg
Warg pen
Warg rider captain.
Warg rider
Feral warg
Warg pen
Warg rider captain.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
@LordOfAles could you make stats for these units I can post here. I think it's fine to reskin and rename the current uruks to black uruks so they fit better in theme.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
I'd rather not until @Alexander82 agrees on this topic.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
I'd prefer leaving the original uruks in and adding these as separate like they are in the books. Black uruks are stronger were Uruks just have better armour and weapons. Black urine also have more experience then saurumans uruks due to the fact that the Uruks were trained through village raids while Black Uruks were trained through taking on bigger target s.Sunrise Samurai wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:59 pm @LordOfAles could you make stats for these units I can post here. I think it's fine to reskin and rename the current uruks to black uruks so they fit better in theme.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Savra is completely right. We just wait for Alex to see this now.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Might I suggest changing the black towers name to mordor tower of monolith?
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
He says that you're the more knowledgeable about the lore. Feel free.LordOfAles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:17 pm I'd rather not until @Alexander82 agrees on this topic.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Would these be what you had in mind for black uruks?
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
1st and 3rd is good. 2nd are mordor orcs. If you plan to draw the 3rd just remove that white hand and change shape of helmet a bit like giving him more horns.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
Some more for here. I like these ones better. Considering ones actually black uruks, the right ones.
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Re: Armies of the Dark Lord
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