makazuwr32 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:53 pm
2. Melinoe - basic spearman unit of demons. Agile women who became demonical because of their husbands, pretty agile but fairly weak.
10 hp, 4 attack (standart pikeman bonus to cavalry units), 4 speed (sight 5), 66% dodge counter, 0/0 armor, 2 turns cost. counts as pikeman (so no bonus damage from archers and cavalry)
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The next one should be should be worker basic warrior.
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Re: Demons
Why hasn't anyone thought of an Evoker.....powerful beings but im not sure what they would do here
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uhm in minecraft they are living beings, not demons.
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It seems demons are accepted, someone should make a section of it.
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There are still people that don't agree with this and think they should be subrace for undeads.
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100+ units as a subrace for undeads?
I think it will be a bit too much for them.
I think it will be a bit too much for them.
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If we exclude more than 70 units which will probably be ripped straight from warcraft, no, it wont be too much.
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Just figure it out, will it be a suprace or a race.
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Subrace. Too little diversity for demons.
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And also 100+ is only basic units. At least 50% will have upgrade (maybe not one) and because this number can easily raise to 200.makazuwr32 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 amIdeas you mean?
HoMM - Heroes of Might and Magicmakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:52 pm If to be more correct: 10 units (and upgrades) are inspired by HoMM series; 10 by WC3; 20 by Titan Quest; some more (around 20 i think) from Sacred Underworld; 8 unique demons inspired by all these games; 10 campain only units (bosses and such); few more which i don't know what role they must have.
WC3 - Warcraft 3
Also 3 are inspired by Dungeon Keeper
Also this info is outdated, because i have ideas of 20 more demon units and their upgrades (inspired by real myths and legends)
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There is a lot of species and types of demons.
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It doesn't matter where are rippofs from, originality does. It would be bad if people seen aof like a bunch of mixed pixelated games, or demons as race compilation from other games.
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Well first thing first:
Everything was created before us and it is ridicilously hard to create completely new one with no references to other games.
Humans, elves, orcs, undeads – all units from these 4 races are easily recognizable. Orcs were mostly inspired by tolkien (for at least 90-99%). Elves at early stages also. Undeads... from many games. And from myths.
Why this exact race must be completely different?
Everything was created before us and it is ridicilously hard to create completely new one with no references to other games.
Humans, elves, orcs, undeads – all units from these 4 races are easily recognizable. Orcs were mostly inspired by tolkien (for at least 90-99%). Elves at early stages also. Undeads... from many games. And from myths.
Why this exact race must be completely different?
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Then nothing is wrong here, unless it's be sue, I suggest some from myths and legends.
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Many units inspired from titan quest were inspired in development of this game by real myths and legends as well
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Because i don't want demons nor angels in. They are supposed to be more superior beings than mortals and not to be on earth in first place. Seeing them fight mortals, and mortals winning, is just absurd. Some very weak units like lesser demon etc. As subrace are ok.
+ demons are ugly as hell
+ demons are ugly as hell
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Demons are not superior beings. They are just beings from other dimencions. Not from this one. And they came to conquer it.
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If we have get demons we will need angels. And angels are superior.
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Why? Demons are opposite to mortal races, not to celestial beings like gods, angels... they are just another race like humans, orcs... with their own gods and ANGELS.
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Beacause if there are demons and not angels forums and multiplayer chat will probably get flooded with angel topics.
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So basically if demons becomes a race angels will also have a race? Seems a bit much considering other races still need working on.LordOfAles wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:08 am If we have get demons we will need angels. And angels are superior.
Maybe they should be a subrace
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Well... i must say that on this race i work much harder than on my previous suggesion of new race for aof.
And i mean creating lore and description of units.
Last spoiler - some demons are just artifical being created by human mages/some anomalies...
And i mean creating lore and description of units.
Last spoiler - some demons are just artifical being created by human mages/some anomalies...
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Alas IF YOU INSIST, @LordOfAles, i can work afder demons on celestial beings race (not only angels).
Gods, their champions, elemental lords and their elementals, angels, titans.
Gods, their champions, elemental lords and their elementals, angels, titans.
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I don't insist on anything. I want to point out that there are races more diverse and more fun to work on, like beast race or fungi one which was abandoned.
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I don't like fungi. I have allergy on them.
I mean in real life.
Also first must be done unit type revamp and after implementing more stuff for dwarves, humans and elves (especially for elves because right now they are the weakest race of all 6 in terms of long games and they have no chance at all against any other race exept of themselves.
I mean in real life.
Also first must be done unit type revamp and after implementing more stuff for dwarves, humans and elves (especially for elves because right now they are the weakest race of all 6 in terms of long games and they have no chance at all against any other race exept of themselves.
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*COUGH machine race COUGH*
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I still don't like idea of demons. They better left for undead as subrace.
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