Claws, Tails and Poison. Scaledfolk Race. — ARCHIVED

[Skelegonsans]

I know. Again I'd suggest to simply make scaledfolk poison stackable which will make it a lot more powerful already. There's not really a need to make it more complicate than that.

[Sunrise Samurai]

I'd go with more variety. This should be their primary debuff power, rather than any spells. Slowing poison instead of elf slow spell, for example. Armor reducing acid instead of disarmor. Etc.

[General Brave]

The Scaledfolk has been done, except they won't be added in until the Dwarf are a bit more complete.

[Skelegonsans]

Nice!

[General Brave]

Give me some description.

[Skelegonsans]

json descriptions? like the ones i did for dwarves?

[General Brave]

Yes.

[makazuwr32]

Tried them... I first time lost to orcs and elves on AI-Easy settings.

[General Brave]

You lost, I defeated every race. Perhaps we need more stronger units

[General Brave]

Pretty sure we first need is a fire Archer, or at least something that burns down buildings.

[makazuwr32]

Maybe not a fire but asid?
It will affect buildings, undead and other units. Also will affect dwarven mechanical units which are not vurable to fire.
As for unit i suggest to add that to hydra or to maybe coatl (light fast ranged flying unit with weak attack and bonuses against buildings, undead and mechanical units).

[General Brave]

A what?

[makazuwr32]

Flying serpent. In warcraft 3 it was with nagas and these scaledfolks are similar a bit.

[General Brave]

That looks nice, but do we really need a different name for it.

[makazuwr32]

About name we can just name it as "Flying serpent" if you want. That doesn't matter so much.
Main one is that it can have acid passive.

[Constantin]

What do you think about wyvern as a flying unit?

[makazuwr32]

I thought about wyvern as unit for orcs.
"Fly with Wyverns of the Horde!" By wyvern unit from Warcraft 3.

[godOfKings]

acid affects burnable units like burning, may b a bit different like more damage for less turns, or less damage for more turns but total damage is same as burning?

[makazuwr32]

I thought for acid more dot with less time of working and non-stackable.

[General Brave]

Wyvern, sound okay. Does it attack with acid or does it spit acid.

[makazuwr32]

Wyvern no.
Even in heroes of might and magic 3 and heroes of might and magic 5 it had only poison. No acid. Also in both games it was not so tough melee unit and right now they lack of range.
Acid had Manticore in heroes 5. But it was just more powerful version of poison there and couldn't affect mechanical units and buildings as well as undead.
And also acid blood (counter attack ability) had hydra in homm 5.

[General Brave]

I'm guessing the blood falls unto the attacker.

[makazuwr32]

Yes. But as well that is not the acid we need.
So i think "Flying Serpent" (aka Couatl) is better for acid sprayer.

[General Brave]

What are stats?

[makazuwr32]

I am thinking about these:

Flying Serpent - Flyine agile serpent tamed by Lizardmen.
Cost 4 turns
Trainable at Tc, Big Castle-type building (where Hydras are trained), Needs tech "Serpent taming" to be reseached first (Reseachable at hunter's hut for 5 turns)
Hp - 35
Attack - 10 (melee)
Range - 5
Actions/turn - 1
Armor - 0/0
Dodges: Melee - 20%, Ranged - 20%
Speed 5
Sight 7
Abilities:
Acid breath - Affects mechanical units, undeads and buildings; deals 50% of of damage (including bonuses) to these units for 3 turns to those targets. Non stackable.
Bonuses: standart bonuses to buildings, 100% to ALL undeads (including death knights, Spectral riders and such), 100% to all mechanical units (wagons, ships, catapults, trebushets, Dwarven zeppelins (both transport and war) and all upcoming dwarven mechanical units)

Also i suggest to change Hydra's attack - increase it to 11 damage so it can finally do some damage to high armored targets like imperials/uruk hais/sentinels/most of dwarves under buff from cleric AND change her poison - to "Hydra's Venom": works for 3 turns only but deals 10 damage per turn to target.

[General Brave]

Okay, highly venomous hydra.

[makazuwr32]

Right now hydra is really weak. Mainly due to weak poison and weak damage. And because it must be pretty tough and hard hitting unit than i suggested these changes.
Also about her venom - it must be stronger than troll's regeneration.

[General Brave]

You do realize it can heal itself, especially when you don't use any actions.

[makazuwr32]

Right now it is more defencive unit. Because of regeneration. But it is not so good as offencive unit. Especially as unit for 8 turns from mega building.

[Midonik]

Why does both lizardmen and cobol archer have bonus against buildings? I can somehow understand that for slinger and spearmen, but for archers it makes no sense.