Elephant Balista

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Elephant Balista

Post by Joddy El Campeador » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:53 am

Balista loaded to the elephant back
Stats like balista and HP&speed like the elephant

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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:58 am

uhm. just no.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by samuelch » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:46 pm

Khmer used ballista on elephants.
"In the Southeast Asia, the powerful Khmer Empire had come to regional dominance by the 9th century AD, drawing heavily on the use of war elephants. Uniquely, the Khmer military deployed double cross-bows on the top of their elephants."
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:39 pm

I will look for more scources if this is real one.
Thanks for idea of period.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by godOfKings » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:15 pm

Could b an upgrade of elephant archer?
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:18 pm

I looked for my scources and i must say that it was their never realised concept.
And even more why it is not historically accurate because ballista was designed in Late Rome time (4th century) when Khmers empire was dead i think for at least a 5 centuries.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by samuelch » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:34 am

It's not a balista. It's just similar to balista. Civilization games have Khmer with Elephant balista as unique units.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:42 am

Then it must have due to flaws only one action/turn.
And better name.
I agree about upgrade of elephant archer.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by godOfKings » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:39 am

Here is my idea, it is upgrade of elephant Archer, it has 2 actions since its 'repeating crossbow', 6 atk, no area damage, 5 range, HP and armour shall b same as basic elephant Archer

Upgrade cost is 6 turns
For six turns u get 1+ atk 1+ action, no extra spell resist, speed or hp

Wat will b name? Khmer elephant crossbowman ? Or Khmer elephant ballista? Or simply elephant ballista or elephant crossbowman?

Description: The Khmer empire used a unique strategy combining war elephants with repeating crossbows to destroy their enemies from above
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by godOfKings » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 am

altalt throwers, auxiliary skirmishers and voulgirs should get high bonus against elephant archers, and voulgirs should also get high bonus against elephants in general
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:39 pm

Gok Variant is fine.
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by godOfKings » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:13 am

in case stratego decides this to b upgrade of elephant archer, here is final stat suggestion.

Khmer elephant ballista
(upgrades from elephant archer)

Description: The Khmer empire used a unique strategy combining war elephants with repeating crossbows to destroy their enemies from above

cost of upgrade tech: 6 turns
hp: 120
atk: 6
armor: 1
p.armor:2
speed: 2
range: 5
action: 2
spell resist: 0
gets basic blacksmith upgrades same as elephant archer
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godOfKings wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:39 am
Here is my idea, it is upgrade of elephant Archer, it has 2 actions since its 'repeating crossbow', 6 atk, no area damage, 5 range, HP and armour shall b same as basic elephant Archer

Upgrade cost is 6 turns
For six turns u get 1+ atk 1+ action, no extra spell resist, speed or hp
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:41 am

current heavy elephant image
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Re: Elephant Balista

Post by godOfKings » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:20 pm

Updated previous post with latest image
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