ballista counter attack?

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ballista counter attack?

Post by godOfKings » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:51 am

I think ballista shouldnt b able to counter atk because it is impossible to counter a melee swordsman at close range using such a bulky weapon. Also i believe catapults couldnt counter atk at melee range too so ballista shouldnt b an exception
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:22 pm

Although, it would be justified because it is meant to kill infantry. . .

But I see your point.
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by godOfKings » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:27 pm

Ballista already is enough strong to kill most infantry, rather infantry needs something to counter them effectively

For example, maceman currently has enough bonus to destroy a heavy catapult with one hit, for ballista, Celtic warrior is effective but I think it shouldn't get counter atked from ballista, cuz its unrealistic


Ballista is mostly effective at atkin enemies hidden inside towns, as they dont miss towns, on the other hand a defensive fortress almost makes them redundant as an offensive unit, does making it delicately balanced, the way I like the most 8-)
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Fri May 18, 2018 2:25 am

It makes too less damage,still.
But yes,Ballista should not counter attack.
Same goes for trebuchets,cannoneers,catapult.
But that will change the game's whole concept as archers too couldn't counter attack.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Fri May 18, 2018 6:41 am

Uhm... archers can if they survive.
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by godOfKings » Fri May 18, 2018 8:08 am

Catapults and trebs already cannot counter atk

Only ballista can counter atk so it should change considering it is cheaper than the other units
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Fri May 18, 2018 2:43 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:Uhm... archers can if they survive.
No way!
There was no archer who had three hands,two to operate bow and arrow,and one with a weapon,nor was there any archer who could operate bow and arrow with a single hand.
Nor can they shoot someone with arrow,because that would be too short distance.And the same goes for Ballista,so GoK is correct
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri May 18, 2018 5:07 pm

I mean they can counter in the game right now.
Try to attack basic archer in melee with basic swordman - he will get counter damage and he will get full one.
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by godOfKings » Fri May 18, 2018 7:20 pm

U should see how hawk eye in Marvel's avengers fight, he once counter attacked scarlet witch with a stun arrow head, and if it was real metal head then it would have pierced her skull, it is quite possible to atk with bow and arrow at melee range, and in fact a direct hit from that arrow is far more deadly than anything, u just need to wait with Ur weapon until the enemy reaches point blank range, and release the arrow just b4 he strikes
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri May 18, 2018 7:40 pm

Exactly gok. And because i think archers must still have counter attack. If still alive.
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat May 19, 2018 2:51 am

But thats THE AVENGERS and he is Hawk Eye.
Neither we have a hawk eye,nor is it done as you think.

If you still don't believe me,then,you can go here:
https://www.quora.com/Do-archers-shoot-at-close-range

And the way you are saying,in that concept,Legolas of Lotr had no use of shooting from far enough

My point is both Ballista and Archer should be removed from counter attack
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat May 19, 2018 4:40 am

I never planned removing counter from archers, is it suggested for realisticity's sake, or for gameplay?Because gameplay is much important.

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Post by godOfKings » Sat May 19, 2018 6:28 am

well about ballista, it is suggested for both reality and gameplay

about archer i dont really support it though
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat May 19, 2018 6:34 am

I think we should see things according to gameplay,because an archer is supposed to one-hit kill an enemy in reality.
So yes,we should see things from Gameplay View
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by COOLguy » Sat May 19, 2018 1:13 pm

I don't see why the ballista should not counter attack. Its counter attack doesn't deal that much damage does it?
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Re: ballista counter attack?

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Sat May 19, 2018 1:34 pm

I think we can simply vote for this.
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