Elite Skirmisher Upgrade - ANSWERED

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Elite Skirmisher Upgrade - ANSWERED

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New name: Master Skirmisher

Hp +3
Attack +2
Armor +0/+1
Sight +1
Cost: 6
Researched at archery range
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Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade

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Not bad, good stats. Skirmshers are weak in my opinion even upgraded so this unit needs something that can make it a little stronger. I really like this idea :D
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Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade

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Skirmishers are supposed to be weak, and strong only against archers
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Upraded should be better vs other units. :?
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Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING

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It gains reasonable stats, skirmishers shouldnt kill swordmen you know

Others?
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Master skirmishers already exist, as upgrade from normal skirmisher.

They are also one of my favorite basic units, so idk why everyone is complaining that they are so weak. :P
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DoomCarrot wrote:Master skirmishers already exist, as upgrade from normal skirmisher.

They are also one of my favorite basic units, so idk why everyone is complaining that they are so weak. :P
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Lol i thought its name was elite skirmisher! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Yeah this would be the first unit to have two upgrades form the base grade unit!!
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Actually second.
First one is a regular swordman
(Swordman -> Broad Swordman -> Man-at-arms)
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I thought man-at=arms was a unit not an upgrade but if you say so.
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Man-at-Arms is Second tier Upgrade for basic Swordmen.
Researchablle at barracks after complete Broad Swordman upgrade.
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Now i see what you are talking about.
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I don't know about this, it doesn't seem much but also it doesn't make it too powerful.
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Lets face it, skirmishers suck! So I really don't care what happens! they are week and winy anyway.
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There are useful against archers, unless there's many of them.
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Yeah even better if they are one on one.
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Belfry777 wrote:Lets face it, skirmishers suck! So I really don't care what happens! they are week and winy anyway.
skirmishers kick butt. :P

They already pretty much one hit kill all archer units when fully upgraded, so there isn't all too much reason to buff them again, except to fight other units like infantry, which they were never really meant to do well lol
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I guess if you see it that way.
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DoomCarrot wrote:skirmishers kick butt. :P

They already pretty much one hit kill all archer units when fully upgraded,
Not if u also upgrade archer armour, then they manage to survive for 1 or 2 hp and it really suks, although it only happens at a really long game, and dont forget crossbows although to me fire archers r more useful
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but anyways, i have no intention of making a single unit get a tier three upgrade, only man-at-arms is exceptional, may b wen all useful units have tier two upgrades i will think about it
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Skirmishers should have increased speed though...

Base speed 4

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this is a good idea since swordman would be never used if it didnt have man at arms. And i actually never, never saw a skirmisher being used so the upgrade would be useful
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They have already one upgrade.
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we need some stats..
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Master skirmisher has
10 hp
5 attack (and 50% bonus damage to all archers exept of elephant archers to whom they're dealing 400% bonus damage)
4 range
0/6 armor
and they are upgradeble by blacksmith archer upgrades so you can add +2 to attack, range and both armors.
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Not bad I like those stats dose anyone have any objections?
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These stats are of current Master Skirmisher in the game.
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I still suggest that the speed be increased to 4 as well.
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