Lizard Blademan

[MightyGuy]

A basic unit (like swordman)
Cost:2
Hp:17
Attack:7
Armor:0
Pierce Armor:1
Range:1
Speed:3
Sight:4
Spell Resistance:0%
Buildable at: tcs, swamp barracks
Has bonus against Structures 250%

Description:
The Main basic unit and Offensive and Slightly Defensive.

This unit is the basic. useful unit for destroying enemy structures.

[MightyGuy]

Lizard Blademan Image.

Blademan is the main basic unit of scaledfolks.

[Midonik]

Maceman going to be no-basic unit?

[MightyGuy]

maceman is a basic unit best fot killing enemy infantry but so weak on building structures like walls.

[MightyGuy]

maceman is a basic unit best for killing enemy infantry but so weak on building structures like walls.

[Midonik]

Ok.

[Skelegonsans]

Nice idea. However, the scaledfolks (at least as i see them) are slightly better close fighters than humans, so maybe change stats to:
Hp 19
Atk 8
Arm 2
P.arm 2
Others still the same.

[Alexander82]

I think that maces should be better than swords against buildings.
Also maces should partially ignore armor

[Midonik]

I think that maces should be better than swords against buildings.
Also maces should partially ignore armor

Agrre. But if want to make mace we will must change too much.

[Alpha]

The Macemans stats should be similar to the one in AOS

[Midonik]

He was one shoot mens-at-arms. He need to be weaker.

[MightyGuy]

you got me on that, however, this is basic unit only dont raise armor and pierce it has not wearing armor only sheild and Sharp blaade.

[Skelegonsans]

Even being basic id put it with both armors at 1. I see the scaledfolk as high defensive units, but im sure that even having 1 armor and 19 hp it wont do against an orc warrior, so i guess thats ok.

[Alexander82]

This is in line with the 3 turn bigger lizardmen

[MightyGuy]

perpect image! that image i saw in sletch before scaledfolk not officially here! now i see in pixel version. goodjob! ★★★

[Alpha]

Alexanders image is very good!

[Skelegonsans]

Grate. Now we just need to raise stats.

[DoomCarrot]

Is alexander's image for the blademan, or an upgrade? I am confused. Either way, great image!

[Alexander82]

In another post we agreed to make kobolds as basic 2 turn land units and make lizardman more costly 3+ turns and bigger/stronger and amphibious.

[Skelegonsans]

New stats idea:
Cost: 4 (ground/swimming, move cost on water is 2)
Hp 28
Atk 14
Arm/p.arm 3/2
Speed 4
Sight 5
Description: A powerful lizardman fighter, with hard scales and the ability to swim.
(200% bonus agains buildings, 2200% bonus against mega buildings.)

Agreed?

[MightyGuy]

wait, too OP. atk 15 & bonus to mega buildin 2200% is to OP = easy to destroy buildings

this is a basic unit only. sorry

[Skelegonsans]

No, the kobolds are basic units. And btw, 2200% bonus will result in about 300-350 atk against megas. Castle has 1500+ hp soo... i guess its good?

[Skelegonsans]

I think this units stats should be a bit like a knight. Just reduced hp and speed a little and increased atk and arm/p.arm a bit. And of course, it can swim.

[MightyGuy]

sorry but its still bit OP . maybe 2000%?

[Skelegonsans]

Ok, not MUCH difference anyway.

[Skelegonsans]

I have a little doubt about something... should the lizardmen be an upgrade of kobolds, or be gem upgrade units, or basic units? Imo, they should be gem upgrade units. Its just that most unit topics dont say if its basic/upgrade...

[Alexander82]

i think they sholdn't definitely be an upgrade for kobolds (they are different races) and they shouldn't al be gem units

[Skelegonsans]

Ok, but is this one gem unit

[MightyGuy]

i agree with skelegonsans, there's kobolds now that has similar to lizards but it's weaker

[Alexander82]

kobolds are weaker and cheaper land units

lizards are stronger (almost strong as orcs) and amphibious

They are basically more versatile and strong, but also more costly

If you are on a land map you might prefer to swarmo kobolds, while in maps full of water tiles you will surely prefer going with lizardmen

for lizardman stats i suggest doing that: take the basic (non upgraded) orc unit we might refer too (for example a orc swordman), take his stats, remove 1/2 attack and add +1 armor and pierce, add +1 to cost and add waterwalking

here your lizard unit stats are ready.

This isn't obviously a fixed rule but i think we might go for it as a common direction (we also will add techs to give bonus to lizards instead of the unit upgrades that orcs have)

Needless to say, if you want a stronger unit you can go for it, but just make sure you raise the cost enough.