Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:11 am
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:28 am
Sorry, keep missing that.
Kinda both.
Its not like the game is totally imabalanced overall but there are many units that or OP like the leopard tank on germany.
ok than i open new topic for leopard
Can I get official confirmation that this idea is rejected? Esp what part is unacceptable? Drejade may of singled out only one "unbalanced unit", but I have listed many important changes above, where the imbalance isn't as crazy but very noticeable. (I even ranked them according to imbalance)
So recap of my proposed changes.
1. New 1 turn tankette and minor exception class units
List of units proposed to have 1 turn cost:
Germans have pz1, Goliath mine
Us have M1 Combat car
Japan has Type94
Russia has t-26, t-50, t-60
France has Laffy WC (not tankette), Renault FT17
Italy L6/40, Rossini Cv.3, I3/43
Britain has MV VI Bovington
Adjustments:
- T-26 light tank base damage 15 -> 9, add bonus 150% against vehicle light, 100% bonus againt light tank, 50% against infantry, 50% against medium tanks. Note this unit doesn't have 2 attack. (Total damage against infantry 10 per attack)
- Panzer 1 base damage 6->5 attack bonus 200%->100% (10 damage per attack against infantry, total 20)
Not 1 turn cost, for comparison Panzer 2 no change (12 damage per attack, total 24)
- Rossini CV.3 base damage 5 -> 4, infantry bonus 200%->100% (total damage to infantry is 8+8= 16)
- L3/33 base damage 2-> 4, action 1-> 2. Bonus remains the same. (Total infantry damage 8+8=16)
- Laffy WC base damage 13 -> 8, light tank bonus 100%, light vehicles 150%, medium tank bonus 50%, no bonus against heavy tanks. (Total damage to infantry 8, light vehicles 20, light tanks 16, medium tanks 12)
- Bovington VI (total damage to infantry is 8+8=16)
- Renault FT17 base damage 3-> 4, infantry bonus 20%->150%, add light vehicle bonus 200%. (Total damage to infantry 10, light vehicles 12)
Industry 2 1 turn tanks:
- t-50 base damage 15-> 7, infantry bonus 200%->100, light vehicle 50%. (Total damage to infantry 14+14=28, light vehicle 10+10=20)
- t-60 base damage 9->8, infantry bonus 200% -> 100%, light vehicles 50% (total damage to infantry 16+16=32, light vehicles 12+12=24)
- L6/40 Base damage 8-> 7 damage infantry bonus 200 -> 100%, add light vehicle bonus 50% (total damage against infantry is 14+14=28) Important. Is 1940 considered first industry or second? I want to move this unit to industry 1 because current Italian industry 1 tankette is too weak compared to other nations. Decrease base attack by 1 if its in industry 1.
- Goliath mine 3 cost-> 1 cost
H
2. Light, Medium, other tanks
H=high imbalance, M=medium imbalance, L=low imbalance
Italy:
- Semovente da 47/32 AT Cost 3->1 cost, suggest 1->2 range as its self propelled artillery as well.
M
- Semovente da 90/53 AT suggested 1->3 range as its a self propelled artillery as well. No MG against infantry
L
- Semovente da 105/25 suggested range 1->2 as it is propelled artillery as well. Base damage reduced (affecting infantry)
L
- Fiat M11 (get rid of it)
L
- Fiat M13 3 cost->2 cost, 3-> 4 speed
M
- Fiat M15, M16 3 cost-2 cost
M
- Semovente da 75/18 3 cost-> 2cost
M
- Semovent da 149 40, cost 6-> 5 cost, plus increase base damage stat by 5
H
Japan:
- Type 5 Nato Reduce base damage (affecting infantry)
L
- Type89 I-Go 3 cost->2 cost (Speed increase? Feels a bit slow for a light tank)
L
- Type97 Chin Ha 4 and upgrades 4 cost->3 cost
M
- Type3 Chin-Nu 4 cost->3 cost
H
- Type2 Ka-Mi 4 cost->3 cost
M
- Type 98 ta-Se, So Ki increase bonus against infantry.
L
British:
- Anti-tank Archer Reduce base damage (affecting infantry)
L
- Cruiser Mk I 3 cost->2 cost
L
France:
- French Industry I 3 turn light tanks around 20 hp and under reduce cost to 2. E.g Lorraine 37L, Renault R35 and Hotchkiss h35.
H
-AMX-40 4 cost->3 cost
M
USA:
- M2 Light Tank, M2A1 Cost 3->2 cost
M
- M3,M5 Stuart Cost 3->2 Cost
L
Russia:
- Su-85, SU-100 AT (possibly move 1 tank down an era or combine unit as upgrade?)
L
- T-70 3 cost-> 2 cost
M
- BT-7 3 cost-> 2 cost
M
- A-20 3 cost-> 2 cost (only in factory, if in town return cost to 3)
M
- T-90 SPAAG 3 cost-> 2 cost if 72-K GAZ-MM anti air gun truck can be 1 cost
L
German:
Panzer II 3 cost-> 2 cost
H
- Panzer 35t, 38t 3 cost-> 2 cost
H
- Panzer IV ausf.D, F1, Ausf.J 4 cost-> 3 cost
L
- Panzerjager I 3 cost-> 2 cost
H
- Marder II, Marder III 3 cost-> 2 cost
M
- Stumpanzer I 3 cost-> 2 cost (infantry killer)
M
- Stumpanzer II Bison 4 cost-> 3 cost
H
3. Heavy tanks
Italy:
- Carro P-75, P26/40 Cost 4->3 cost
M
- Fiat 2000 Cost 5->3 cost, speed 1->3, requires heavy tank construction
H
- P43 Proposed to move to industry 2 to give Italy more tank power during then
H
Japan:
- Superheavy IO 8 cost-> 6 cost, speed 2->3
H
- Type 5 Ho-Ri 7 cost->6 cost, require heavy tank construction tech
H
British:
- Challenger 5 cost->4 cost, require heavy tank research
L
- Comet 5 cost->4 cost, require heavy tank research
L
- Churchill Mk IV, VII and Crocodile? Is it medium or heavy tank? Why does it require heavy tank tech when categorised as medium tank
H
- Black Prince 7 cost->6 cost, speed 2->3
M
- Centurion 7 cost->6 cost, speed 3->4
M
- Tortoise A39 7 cost->5 cost, increase base speed to 3 and damage to building and mega buildings as its an assault gun.
L
- Tog I, Tog II cost -1 less each
L
France:
- Char G1 and Char B1 reduce cost by 1. Char G1 and Char B1 require heavy tank tech to research
M
- Char 2C 6 cost->5 cost, speed 2->3
M
- ARL-44 5 cost->4 cost
M
USA:
- T29 8 cost-> 7 cost
L
- M6, M6 A2E1 7 turn-> 5 cost
L
- T28, T28 upg 2 speed -> 3 speed
M
Russia:
- Su-100y 8 cost->7 cost, light tank category to super heavy tank category
H
- ISU-122 AT (category fix like above)
H
- ISU-152 AT 7 cost-> 6 cost, range 1-> 2 as its also artillery
L
- SU-122-2 7 cost-> 6 cost
L
- t-35 6 cost->5 cost, 3 speed-> 2 speed
L
- KV-1 Colossus (all upgs) 6 cost-> 5 cost
L
- KV-85 7 cost-> 6 cost
M
- IS-1, IS-2, IS-3 All cost to be 5
M
- KV-5 8 cost-> 7 cost
H
- SU-122 5 cost-> 4 cost
M
- SU-152 6 cost-> 5 cost
M
German:
- karl Gerat 041 upgrade from Karl Gerat 040 isn't really an upgrade
H