Unit - insane orc MTG

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Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:07 pm

I read a few MTG cards and i saw some orc or goblin cards that said: "attack if able" (meaning: will attack even if the the controller did not wanted him to attack)
This concept fits the "races" section the general race discussions saying: orcs are hard to control and like to disorder.

So i thought of a unit (it will be an upgrade i guess) that is pretty cheap (even 1 turns) but you can not control it completely, eg: goes to attack by itself by an AI logic.

version a):
- cheap 1 turn
- relatively strong (like the orc warrior)
- but player can not control it, can not move it, and cannot attack with it (the unit constantly disordering)
- it will move forward enemy (AI controls it instead of you)
- and will attack by itself
- player can not even say "stand down" or "delete" to him
- however it is still the player's unit so it can occupy buildings for him.
- maybe he has only 2 movement (not to be op)

version b): light version
- it will not move by itself, player can move it
- but player can not say "stand down" to him or "delete" to him
- he will attack to enemy units always if he still have ability to attack (so he will attack even if player does not want to)
- this is not a big drawback so this sould not be a 1 turn cost unit, but maybe somewhat different to orc warrior.
- can have 3 movement too.

what do u think?

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Re: Unit - insane orc

Post by patroid » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:20 pm

Idea one.

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Re: Unit - insane orc

Post by draakjee » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:13 pm

i also like the first version :)

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Re: Unit - insane orc

Post by dust-n-steel » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:22 pm

Idea one, but maybe also for other races?
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Re: Unit - insane orc

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:28 pm

for other races - what do u mean?

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Re: Unit - insane orc

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:29 am

i totally missed that one :D
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:52 am

this sounds interesting :)

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Post by Alexander82 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:31 am

I can make an image for that.
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:28 pm

I was thinking 2 things about this idea:

1) What about merging it with the idea we discussed in the email of random types of orc units?

We can make some variants of this units with different stats (one with more attack, another slower and armored, another one weaker with 2 attacks and faster) so it will also be less strong since you can't control which kind of unit you obtain

2) About no control is a great idea but the real problem here would be that this units can enter your buildings. It would be important to make for them a rule that won't allow them to enter a building if there is only a space less otherwise they will just be a downside for the army
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:44 pm

Unfortunately this is going to have to wait until the waypoint bug is fixed. As it is, we can still control green dragons, so I'm guessing this would be no different.
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Post by Alexander82 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:49 pm

Yeah, that would have to be fixed at the same time.

We might just use the randomized orcs as a different idea
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:39 pm

the bulding entering is solved already - no AI will enter.(this has ai too)
waypoint: that can easily be fixed.

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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Ayush Tiwari » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:11 am

Another feature could be
Splash damge or healing or High morale to wolf raider(Wargs and Wolf Raider are siad to be the orcs best friends.
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:04 pm

Initially Warg rider was meant to give double attack but we changed it later since Daniel tought it was too powerful :D
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:39 pm

Yeah. Master wolf rider is already very strong.
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Re: Unit - insane orc MTG

Post by Alexander82 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:19 pm

Yes. That was a proposal made when the warg rider had only a level
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