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Hungry Warg

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This unit costs 4 turns and have a very strong attack. This unit is trained in chained condition (slow speed but controlable and no attack power). This unit can be unchained and will be uncontrolable by player and attack anyone including your own units. Built in volcanoes/TCs.
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Nice idea
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Cool idea. Maybe it could work like:

chained: how the unit comes out of production, can be controlled like any other unit. Has relatively low attack. (Maybe 3-5).

unchained: once unchained is used, the unit can not become chained again. The unit gets +10-15 or more attack, and joins grey team, thus attacking anything within sight.
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Grey team would also attack your units
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I agree.
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Exactly Alexander, I think that was samuel's idea. :)

This is a powerful, uncontrollable unit when it is unleashed, but it can be good to distract and slow down the enemy in areas where they are strong and you are not.
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I don't think it was. For 4 turnsi can make a warg rider that i can control as i like. That way would be pointless. I think it is like the green dragon that you can't control but is your ally.
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How about 3 turns in the volcano/monster cave. Also you can lure this unit with your other unit.
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I think that a unit that can kill your own units shouldn't cost more than 1 turn and should have a priority to attack units instead of buildings (you maki it when enemies are near and you are short of units.
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How about 2 cost in monster cave?
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For 2 turns i can do a relyable orc warrior
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I think we could revive this too,i really think idea is unique,just needs some polishing
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Here r images
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In final will it work like green dragon in your team or will just join grey team
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It looks like a hyena !!!
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Got perfect thing for this.
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For stats you could do:
Warg/ Hunting Warg/ War Warg
Buildable: monster cave, tc.
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Cost:2
Hp:20/24/28
Atk:10/12/14
Rng:1
Sight:6/7/8 can see invisible.
Spd:5/6/7
Dge:30%/30%/30%
Arm:0/1/2
P.arm:1/2/3
Res:20%
Uncontrollable like green dragon. To make things simple.
Can't capture.
100%- 50% Bonus to archers.

This way it's worth 2 turns and technically is still loyal to you, just doesn't listen.
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. . . That is more on the line of cost 1, unless there are upgrades, then it would be worth cost 2.
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We could do upgrades. But let's see what others think on ideas.
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Ok, so if we are going down the upgrade route how's this?
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Besides the upgrade variants, @Alexander82 is this more acceptable? We could probably change last one to mountain warg and give it mountain walk 1 since they technically are a thing, if upgrades are added too that is.
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This would be good after Orcs get their Revamp
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Updated to add more use. Ready.
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I think it's not ready.

Remove dodges
Too high hp
Better no bonuses.
Or lower attack and add minor bonus to "animals"and" infantry"
Max speed is 6


I don't like 3 tiers idea!
Upgrade
Where is upgraded?
Better chose mass Orks tech upgrades

U don't put precious armor to an uncontrollable beast what may never returns
No ork is so dumb.

I suggest keep feral warg
- summonable from monster cave every 2 turn!
Savage, uncontrollable. - Grey team

Cost summonable 2
Hp 16
Attak 10, 50% infantr/cheap archers", 25% animals
Arm 1/0
Speed 6
Sight 6
Dodge counter 30%
Sp res 15%

May add vanishing 3 too
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This can be done easily, if accepted.
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I like the 3 upgrades tough.

We can adjust stats (I wouldn't give it dodge since it is mostly elven trump card and this is a low cost unit, tough).

I would give it bonus against any land unit (infantry, archers, throwers, casters) but no other bonus

Also they should be upgrades with cavalry upgrades (since they are the upgrades for the wolves/wargs used by orcs).
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Seems fine.
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is this discussion active @Alexander82
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Will be changed to summon for a tower (cooldown 3 and vanishing 3).
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