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Elephant Balista

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:53 am
by Joddy El Campeador
Balista loaded to the elephant back
Stats like balista and HP&speed like the elephant

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:58 am
by makazuwr32
uhm. just no.
also please no multipost.

Remember we don't need fantastic units. for that you can go to AoF.
Here we need historical units only.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:46 pm
by samuelch
Khmer used ballista on elephants.
"In the Southeast Asia, the powerful Khmer Empire had come to regional dominance by the 9th century AD, drawing heavily on the use of war elephants. Uniquely, the Khmer military deployed double cross-bows on the top of their elephants."

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:39 pm
by makazuwr32
I will look for more scources if this is real one.
Thanks for idea of period.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:15 pm
by godOfKings
Could b an upgrade of elephant archer?

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:18 pm
by makazuwr32
I looked for my scources and i must say that it was their never realised concept.
And even more why it is not historically accurate because ballista was designed in Late Rome time (4th century) when Khmers empire was dead i think for at least a 5 centuries.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:34 am
by samuelch
It's not a balista. It's just similar to balista. Civilization games have Khmer with Elephant balista as unique units.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:42 am
by makazuwr32
Then it must have due to flaws only one action/turn.
And better name.
I agree about upgrade of elephant archer.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:39 am
by godOfKings
Here is my idea, it is upgrade of elephant Archer, it has 2 actions since its 'repeating crossbow', 6 atk, no area damage, 5 range, HP and armour shall b same as basic elephant Archer

Upgrade cost is 6 turns
For six turns u get 1+ atk 1+ action, no extra spell resist, speed or hp

Wat will b name? Khmer elephant crossbowman ? Or Khmer elephant ballista? Or simply elephant ballista or elephant crossbowman?

Description: The Khmer empire used a unique strategy combining war elephants with repeating crossbows to destroy their enemies from above

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 am
by godOfKings
altalt throwers, auxiliary skirmishers and voulgirs should get high bonus against elephant archers, and voulgirs should also get high bonus against elephants in general

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:39 pm
by makazuwr32
Gok Variant is fine.

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:13 am
by godOfKings
in case stratego decides this to b upgrade of elephant archer, here is final stat suggestion.

Khmer elephant ballista
(upgrades from elephant archer)

Description: The Khmer empire used a unique strategy combining war elephants with repeating crossbows to destroy their enemies from above

cost of upgrade tech: 6 turns
hp: 120
atk: 6
armor: 1
p.armor:2
speed: 2
range: 5
action: 2
spell resist: 0
gets basic blacksmith upgrades same as elephant archer
summary:
godOfKings wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:39 am
Here is my idea, it is upgrade of elephant Archer, it has 2 actions since its 'repeating crossbow', 6 atk, no area damage, 5 range, HP and armour shall b same as basic elephant Archer

Upgrade cost is 6 turns
For six turns u get 1+ atk 1+ action, no extra spell resist, speed or hp

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:41 am
by Stratego (dev)
current heavy elephant image

Re: Elephant Balista

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:20 pm
by godOfKings
Updated previous post with latest image