Spearman Samurai ANSWERED

[SovietColonel]

How about a samurai using A yari that has a lot of damage against mounted units and has double attack ability

[Puss_in_Boots]

You have definitely improved.

I don't how this balances with the voulgier unit recently added. Maybe give this guy less health and a little more damage for tge same turn cost.

He can only be produced in dojos as well.

[Sunrise Samurai]

I was more thinking a naginata over yari. Maybe add a small area damage to it.

[godOfKings]

May b combine this topic with shogunate guard topic, since they r both similar

[Belfry777]

I really don't see the big deal with the spearman samurai we have so many anti mounted units I would try at the post gate house guard.

[samuelch]

I was more thinking a naginata over yari. Maybe add a small area damage to it.

Nice idea.

[Belfry777]

Hmmm I think that area damage might not be able to happen for this unit how about 2 turns.

[Badnorth]

Yari is the term for a traditionally-made Japanese blade in the form of a spear, or more specifically, the straight-headed spear. The martial art of wielding the yari is called sōjutsu.

Cost: 3
Hp: 16
Att: 7
Spd: 3
Armor: 1/0
Sight: 4
Mental resist:
Bonuses:
110% Mounted
220% Elephants

Affected by bushido aura

[DreJaDe]

Already in AOS

It could use a rework though

[Badnorth]

I don't see anything besides yari ashigaru.

[DreJaDe]

Ooff. I thought in my head they both mean soldiers but i guess they are indeed not the same.

[Morningwarrior]

Woah,you thing the same ideia that i

[L4cus]

Is this a total mod for aos? Too many total war content references!!!
I know is not that way, but lots of suggestions here remind me to those days playing tw games

[Morningwarrior]

For the context, there will also be the naginata samurai and tate shield

[L4cus]

tanageshima samurai too! lets have some good gunpowder battles on honshu lands

[Morningwarrior]

Okay so,just wait the opinion of @Endru1241

[Badnorth]

Mm.. Why mention.

You said to wait but you just mentioned him lol.

[Endru1241]

Merged.
Also as Yari is very similar to Spear (at least in this usage they are equvalents), I'll quote myself:

Spearmen - would not be any kind of soldiers with spears - most of them would probably be just generalised as swordsmen.
No, spearmen would be a name that describes those, that were prepared to damage cavalry as a priority. It may have been even bigger mass of people, but probably barely trained to hold a weapon (point a spear in right direction) and disciplined to stab mounts , even by the price of their life (maybe paid handsomely for a kill to surviving family).
It takes certain dedication and/or extensive discipline (which may have not been used against real soldiers with higher social standing) to lay on the ground in or go through mud, blood and body parts of comrades, risking being trampled just to stab unprotected belly of an animal.

[Morningwarrior]

this means?

[Badnorth]

this means?

To put it simply the suggestion of Spearman Samurai is just the unit spearman in-game. Just another name.

[Endru1241]

On the contrary - I'd say spearman samurai is more represented by regular samurai (don't fix yourself on weapon shown in graphics - it's only a representation).
Unit of samurai class warriors using yari doesn't fit to be like spearman - dedicated anti-mounted unit, just like e.g. hoplite doesn't get any anti-mounted bonuses.
So, imho for japanese spearman unit - ashigaru is enough.

[DreJaDe]

From what I know, Japanase weren't used to fighting against cavalry even when they fought the Chinese.

They are more likely to just avoid them and I even saw some case in where even some small contingent of cavalry easily piercing some infantry formation.

[godOfKings]

Which goes on to represent their anti mounted capability is weak, then no range 2 pike for japanese

[Morningwarrior]

Which goes on to represent their anti mounted capability is weak, then no range 2 pike for japanese

but there is another spear that was a Japanese pike much larger than a normal one. but that and subject for another time

[Morningwarrior]

the question is that the samurai used the same weapons as the ashigarus, but it was obvious that they had a much higher discipline, armor and training.

[Morningwarrior]

Of course, we have a katana and nodachi samurai, I see no problem with putting on a yari, naginata and tate shield, especially since the troops in Asia have a very small number compared to the rest.

[godOfKings]

How is the number less compared to nords, romans or church (may b slightly church but church has both most units and most expensive units) japan has 1 of the best anti building infantry unit and the most versatile stealth unit, plus the only nation with gun powder unit that is affected by bushido aura so its the cheapest and highest dmg dealing ranged unit, wat else is japanese lacking? i already suggested my version of cheap anti mounted yari ashigaru unit and endru has more or less accepted that version as well, also there is another suggestion of mounted naginata samurai with power range, with this except for siege japanese will b quite versatile

[Morningwarrior]

How is the number less compared to nords, romans or church (may b slightly church but church has both most units and most expensive units) japan has 1 of the best anti building infantry unit and the most versatile stealth unit, plus the only nation with gun powder unit that is affected by bushido aura so its the cheapest and highest dmg dealing ranged unit, wat else is japanese lacking? i already suggested my version of cheap anti mounted yari ashigaru unit and endru has more or less accepted that version as well, also there is another suggestion of mounted naginata samurai with power range, with this except for siege japanese will b quite versatile

well you have two points here, the truth and that I wanted to have an ashigaru version and another samurai version, ashigarus are a very weak and low class type of troops, having a samurai version would be interesting for the game and that's why I I also suggested the ashigaru yari