Starting packs

[balint]

On random maps, you start with a single builder. I think it would ve better to add several start-up.
Such like:
Workers! the Tc is filled with workers
Scout you start with 3 scout and a flying scout
This, is . SPARTA! The TC is filled with spartans

[COOLguy]

I like

[Stratego (dev)]

yes, my approach was minimal/normal/many units that will mean different unit sets.

[ollie444]

You could do more packs like:

Offensive - 1 knight, 2 sword, 1 archer
Defensive - 2 Shielder, 1 pikeman, 1 healer
Expansive - 2 scout, 1 bird scout, 1 knight
Constructive - 4 worker
Fire Power - 1 ballista, 1 worker
General - 1 man-at-arms
Tactical - 1 templar, 1 pikeman, 1 archer, 1 worker
Strike team - 1 wagon, 3 swordsman
Strength - 4 man-at-arms
Custom - Own choice?

[balint]

uno custom
I wjld use that all the time
3 xatapult and a spartan

[ollie444]

Nononononono!

I meant every player starts with the same pack
Otherwise - very op!

[ejm29]

If you even it out and let each player choose a different pack, it would be great for multiplayer.

[ollie444]

What if you could buy new packs as upgrades?

Or if you win a game with one pack, you unlock the next pack?

[Pepe]

Or maybe you could have x turns to purchase units / technologies. Replace x by the number of turns you want (5, 10, 15, 20, 25...).

What would you guys do with 15 turns?

[balint]

nooooo

that is very op.
I would build a half castle and 2 cataoults by that time

[Stratego (dev)]

and what would you do with those against my ton of knights bursting to conquer?

[balint]

actually, my catapults shoot your advancing knights, while I train pikeman and finish the castle

[balint]

If we count it, yoj would be able to train only 3-4 knights which can be taken out easiliy if I fortify my positions in a narrow pass. So it depends on the terrain, and my luck (with hitchanche)

[Stratego (dev)]

while I train pikeman and finish the castle

oh... sorry i thought all players have only 15 turns to build, and after that they cannot train anything, they must win with the trained units they have.

[ollie444]

Yeah, but after that, I come in and finish you both off
With man at arms army

[balint]

abd then, I appear on the battlefield with my shining armor, and destroy everything in my way

[COOLguy]

Workers FTW!! Building castles fortresses towers catapults...

[ollie444]

Lucky dip - random selection of units

[patroid]

What about let the player add his own starting idead??

I know its possible to do this and what u need for this
Is to type in rhe name of the starting set and then
In a 'pop-up' list you select a unit write down
How many of them and then you can do it again and
Again Until you have mybe a maximum of ten.

Tgen you press add to list ir a button like that and
Its inckuded and you can always use them in
Random or not random games...

Patroid

[Coronel]

When you make random games it only allows you to have minimal troops to (a builder and a tc), you should add an option to change the numbers of starting troops. Also you should add an option to add units anywhere (custom), though not create a map, just add units on an existing map. However, custom shouldn't be enabled in Multiplayer so people don't rig the game in their favor.

[balint]

well, this is already under considering in a topoc somewhere on the forum
(I would give a link but I can't)

[patroid]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1217&p=6710&hilit=ftw#p6710

[balint]

I like that.

[Stratego (dev)]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1217&p=6710&hilit=ftw#p6710

merged.

[Pepe]

I like the option of the starting TURN pack. You can use 10-12 turns to create your starting pack. With 12 turns you could have 4 workers, or some technologies...

This will bring in many more options and strategies to the game

[patroid]

Nice idea!

[Alex486]

I like the idea of who ever sets up the game picks the oack. All players get the same pack.

[ollie444]

Did anyone else get extremely confused with the merged packs? Gets me ever tim. ;(

Anyway, so my question is for the turn limit idea thingy:
Do you mean so like the turns are "currency" and you "buy" each tech and unit at a before game phase? Basically just skipping some of the boring turns from the start? I like this idea.
So like a game host can set the turn limit to say 12, and a player could buy e.g. "writing" tech, a horse-archer, a worker and a swordsman. (btw technology units e.g. catapult would be disallowed, unless you already got the tech).
What would be the turn limit scale? They can choose like from 2 turns to 20 turns?

[DoomCarrot]

well unless one of the starter packs is a wagon and 3 catapults, there is honestly no reason for anyone with half a brain to choose anything other than 4 workers.... i would rather 2 workers over 4 spartans in early game

[ollie444]

So how are you going to grab all the TCS around the map? And what if I come with my four horses, and wreck you...