Auxillaries

[StormSaint373]

The Auxillaries need to be affected by the Legion command buff bestowed by the centurian.

[godOfKings]

I believe they already r affected

[StormSaint373]

Huh, they must have fixed that... Excellent!

What unit is that? The one standing above the assassin? Not seen it in map editor...

[makazuwr32]

I believe it is easter egg coolguy unit.

[godOfKings]

People were complaining that ai could make cool guy, and he didn't get any damage so I tested him in map editor

If u want to know, his weakness r, full damage from ability atk like shuriken of ninja, full damage from units with bonus like Knight, and wen cool guy atks, he himself gets counter atk damage, otherwise this unit is mostly bugged

[StormSaint373]

Ah...

Rome needs it's spearmen...

I would be willing to make a auxillary spearman

Also, early roman units

Hastati
Princape
Triarii
Velite
Equite

Could they be recruited from the roman barracks?
Could they be affected by legion command

[godOfKings]

Deomedarii is a roman spearman but with other benefits besides one hit kill bonus,

That's y I completed it so fast

About other units, I don't know, may b 2 turn units, but I need to check stats

[StormSaint373]

I am meaning for a foot spearman. While the Deomadarii is useful, it is a cavalry unit and is vulnerable to Spears itself...

Stats seem a little too low for a 2 turn cost, but that's just me...
I thought Romans were able to throw Pilum...

[godOfKings]

I don't want auxiliary spearman because according to cool guy, any spear infantry must b weak enough to b 2 hit killed by knights, that would mean either he has as low HP as pikeman or he has high HP like voulgier but gets bonus damage from cavalry

On other units, we need to list their stats, discuss abilities, determine purpose in gameplay and finally decide if they should b playable in multiplayer and how much cost

[Belfry777]

Do you guys think we could add different nationalitys of Auxillaries? Like German Auxillaries who were one of Caesars most trusted and reliable units. Or some of Spanish types.

[godOfKings]

sure, describe their history please and wat role they played, (were they only for defending against barbarian invasion or used in roman expansion too?) as well as wat kind of weapons they used

[Belfry777]

Okay my scope of history is not big however I do know that Caesar went into Gual with 2 legions and left with 12, and that was comprised of both calv and infantry. From further study I found that the majority of the Auxiliaries had mail armor, the gladius sword and the same helmet as the legionnaires. As for calvery, I have seemed to come across 3 main types light, heavy and elite. The light calvery were made up of trained men with just a shield and spear and according to the site below were very good. The heavy calvery (Basically a cataphract) used their shear weight to smash through enemy lines, they carried a sword and mail armor. The elite calvery were just a taste of both types. Their were also ranged Auxillaries who were some of the best of the age.


Good pictures and history: https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/12/27/roman-auxilia/
Historical reference: https://www.knowtheromans.co.uk/Categor ... anAuxilia/

[godOfKings]

we currently have all the auxiliaries u suggested, foot swordsman with same hp as legionary but slightly less armor and small shield so vulnerable to arrows, archer with 6 range, skirmisher with 4 range, both better than basic archer and skirmisher, a light cavalry with the exact description u gave, also centurion can b considered heavy knight in game

on the other hand i want to do a vote, auxiliaries r quite balanced for 3 turn cost units, the problem is early on they r too random and might not give the right unit i m looking for, late game they r useless against castle and catapult spams, so my vote is how many people supports just directly recruiting each auxiliary separately instead of getting any unit depending on chance

[makazuwr32]

Hm. Direct recruitment for auxillaries... Sounds not so bad.

[StormSaint373]

Auxillary spearman

Stats
Cost: 3
Hp: 23
Att: 6
Armor: 1/0
Speed: 3
Vision: 4

Bonuses: Cavalry: 350%, Heavy units (like elephant) 650%

[godOfKings]

With this HP, they will also b getting bonus DMG from mounted units, according to cool guys rule

[godOfKings]

Also this is unit balancing section, not making aux random is a balance suggestion, but spearman is new unit, so better to suggest new aux spearman in a new topic on unit infantry section

[Belfry777]

If we have the Auxillaries produced separably, then we have to make them cheep like 3 turns for the calvery units. I am in support of this.

[godOfKings]

How about a 4 turn tech (Recruit Auxiliaries) gem upgrade will go to that tech, once researched all auxiliaries will b available in build lists?