Japanese kamikaze bombers

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Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by poeticquestion » Mon May 11, 2015 12:46 am

Is it possible to research a tech that lets jap air units to deal huge damage or destroy a unit? (just like the AOS Assassin) Japs encouraged their bushido code: "loyalty and honor before death" and believed that death before capture and shame was their way of life. Even if these attacks weren't successful, The ships that did get hit suffered greatly and we're often put out of commission or were destroyed.

Possibly add a RnG factor to the kamikaze tech and have chance to fully destroy buildings or deal minimal damage to it. Just an idea. Thoughts?
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by RiverRaider 1097 » Mon May 11, 2015 1:26 am

Totally agree but I think this option should come into play when japan gets below a certain level in tc or production level of some kind instead of starting with them what do you think?
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by COOLguy » Mon May 11, 2015 2:54 am

Actually, kamikaze tactics were employed by all airmen (when a plane is downed they would try to aim for something for the plane to hit before bailing). But the Japanese trained their Air Force to deal this damage as a primary weapon later in the war.

Will there be an option to "shoot" the plane down?
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by COOLguy » Mon May 11, 2015 3:01 am

Another thought: should they be cheaper than other planes (like zeroes) or the same price?
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Ness » Mon May 11, 2015 4:39 am

Kamikaze tech

unlocks kamikaze zero that cost as much as normal zero but is slower and can do kamikaze attack

do you like?

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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Jqwan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:44 pm

I think it's a good idea

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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:56 am

This might just be done simply as an ability all Japanese planes get after researching it. Sacrifice the plane to deal 3x normal damage to the target. It takes the rng out of it, making it boil down to strategy. The entire point of the game.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Dan301002 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:31 pm

It can be used as spam, make it so the skill is usable in certain hp (20% - 30% hp left). I don't want jerk using Japanese bombers as a heavy spam attack.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:43 am

By the end of the war, what do you think the Japanese did? Kamikaze strikes *were* spammed, and there were a few high ranking Japanese officers who mentioned it was a bad idea, actually hurting the war effort because these were planes and pilots that weren't ever coming home. Of course, nobody listened, so it became the very icon of the Japanese air force of the time.

In game terms, spamming this would drastically reduced your available troops. It's like assassin spamming in AoS. Effective, but often only giving at best a fair trade when your opponent catches on.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Dan301002 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:33 am

Sunrise Samurai wrote:By the end of the war, what do you think the Japanese did? Kamikaze strikes *were* spammed, and there were a few high ranking Japanese officers who mentioned it was a bad idea, actually hurting the war effort because these were planes and pilots that weren't ever coming home. Of course, nobody listened, so it became the very icon of the Japanese air force of the time.

In game terms, spamming this would drastically reduced your available troops. It's like assassin spamming in AoS. Effective, but often only giving at best a fair trade when your opponent catches on.
Oh well, i think the reason is good enough. Then make it that the skill is having bonus against tanks and planes (dunno about infantry).
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:43 am

Kamikaze difinetly did not work good against infantry units, you should see my idea for it under the Japanese campaign where you requested Japanese units. Plus you could see that wasting an airplane to destroy infantry is going to be expensive.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by LordOfAles » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:26 am

And pretty much useless
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:31 am

Oh very much useless. Historically​ speaking, this was more or less a mistake of epic proportions. A few of these strikes did some real damage, both material​ and psychological, but in mass quantities this was a waste of both planes and pilots. It was somewhat effective against ships, and I could see some use against buildings, and for in game balancing it could​ maybe work as an assassin skill against those, but this is taking it out of historical context mostly because of the dramatic flair associated with it.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:51 pm

Some ships shouldn't go down by a single plane. You should check the Japanese campaign topic to see how me and another fellow forumer came up with the damage system.
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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by samuelch » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:22 pm

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Re: Japanese kamikaze bombers

Post by LordOfAles » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:25 pm

make another topic about ground ones
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