version 1.075

[Stratego (dev)]

version 1.074 is published

[Tankhead]

mention]Stratego (dev)[/mention] it would seem brave has a busy task of Making new files of hard coded units so he can't look over mine.

So I was wondering can I send my work to you? The most you would have to do is put ID on units, and maybe put gems and of course Implementations.
I still have few more things to do but its a good chunk of stuff to send

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, feel free to send me in email

[Stratego (dev)]

new neutrals thanks to GeneralBrave and his helpers!
uos 20

also we need _TXT_ texts for them
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_SHARKMAN">Sharkman</string>
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_ANIMAL_BLACK_SEWER_RAT">Black sewer rat</string>
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_ANIMAL_BROWN_SEWER_RAT">Brown sewer rat</string>
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_ANIMAL_GREY_SEWER_RAT">Grey sewer rat</string>
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_ANIMAL_BROWN_TARANTULA">Brown tarantula</string>
<string name="UNIT_NEUTRAL_ANIMAL_HIPPOGRIFF">Hippogriff</string>

[Tankhead]

Just a wonder but did you happen to receive something from me through Email?
( confirming to see If I made a mistake or not )

[Stratego (dev)]

sorry please resend so i know which u mean (i have tons of incoming emails)

[Stratego (dev)]

these units get jsoned (in both aos/aof) uos 60
UNIT_CROSSBOWMAN
UNIT_SKIRMISHER
UNIT_ELITE_SKIRMISHER
UNIT_KNIGHT_HERO

please tell me if they work fine

[godOfKings]

Weren't they jsoned in aos already?

[Stratego (dev)]

some if them yes, i used he ones already were.
i think only hero was missing

[Stratego (dev)]

mayor change: the human race techs are totally restructured by Alexander!
please everyone test it, it can have many flaws until we find all.

uos already

[Midonik]

Dunno what's wrong here...

[Stratego (dev)]

i know! thanks! go fixing it

do u know which units are wrong?

[Midonik]

All hospitaliar an Templar cav and new tiers of horse archers.

[Stratego (dev)]

thanks!
fixed, please chk.
uos 10

[makazuwr32]

Alright. Newest humans must be changed. Badly.

@Stratego (dev)

1. All holy units are completely op. At all. Erase them from the game and replace with @Lynx Shafir suggestion.

2. Shield tech for humans is op. Without it they are quite balanced in terms of survivability. With it they become tanking monsters that even dwarves can't dream.
Erase it. Completely. If needed more arguments with numbers i can provide them as well.

3. Human horse archers are op. Remove 1 action and lower damage, speed and range by 1 for all of them.

4. Dual swordman requires completely new stats:
Basic/tier 1/tier 2
Cost 3 turns (all)
Hp - 24/27/30 (down from 27/30/33)
Attack - 8/10/12 (up from 8/8/8)
Other stats are same.

5. Axe thrower must be affected by melee techs. No range increase for him.

And minor thing:
Human lancers i think had somewhere ready aofased images. They require them, not aos images.

[Stratego (dev)]

thanks for the suggestions, but until Alexander says it is ready please wait with the suggstions,
he will check the things he assembled (3-4 months ago) and when he says it is ready and balanced, than comes all suggestions for fine tuning.
consider these as first version of this major tech change .

on suggestions:never forget that incrasing a level of these units requires MANY techs to invent (eg. knights needs 4 techs to be invented total 18turns, the next level even more) so they will not be OP in first many turns.

[makazuwr32]

I know about level increase. But for example human horse archer even at base now by far best archer unit among all ranged units in aof. And it costs 4 turns. Just no. He must have lower speed, attack and range.

Holy units we just don't want to see as another expansion of normal units. Instead we want to see them as special units with their own upgrades. Not as "another base unit like warrior" with 3 tiers but more powerful unit of between imperials and normal units level with 1 more tier for most of them.

Axe throwers actually is not that hard to get up to max level and to that time they get way too good range for throwing axe. 7 range is a bit too much.

And shields... This tech is by far most op among all new ones. Most op. It makes for example imperial shielder a huge tank with 10/12 armor that even orcs would have hard time dealing with single such.
I am not mentioning imperial knight with 10/10 armor.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, as i mentioned: wait a little until Alexander says he is ready with balancing them.

so please focus on bug reports (not balancing kind), like the above ones with bad images, or missing images or not working upgrading leveling or anything that is not balancing related.

Thanks!

[Tankhead]

From what it sounds like, theirs now MORE mess to clean up.....

[Stratego (dev)]

dont be so negative, i think the new tech system is very good! after balancing will be awesome!

[Stratego (dev)]

also new things: squig rider pack aimed shot and some other changes uos 10

[makazuwr32]

I like in general new tech system but not shield upgrades.
These 2 exact techs are making humans quite op.

[Tankhead]

I like in general new tech system but not shield upgrades.
These 2 exact techs are making humans quite op.

Agreed, hopefully Alex gives the word to fix before publish to Google play

[Alexander82]

There are new adjustments to make since some jsons need correction (the 2nd attack for the horse archer was just a error)

The techs, anyway, will be shared with dwarves that will have extra tiers of them.

So dwarves will benefit from shields too

Holy units are brand new and their stats will need testing and balancing.

Lancers already had new images (I've sent them to Daniel).

I will update dwarves soon to employ those techs and to make their extra tiers. I couldn't do that until the nee system was implemented properly.

[makazuwr32]

How much levels dwarves will have? 4 for base armor and 4 for shileds?
Also please lower range of all horse archers by 1 and increase damage of all fire archers by 1.

As for holy units:
They must feel unique and be special units like warmage (or you want for all non-imperial units to add more tiers?). But now they feel just like regular footmen. Both visually and because they have 3 tiers and mounted/dismounted version.

[Tankhead]

How are AI using new units not set for them yet in buildlist ( just curious )

[General Brave]

So there a problem with the Squig rider, the jumping ability appears to do not do anything.

[Stratego (dev)]

can u try to fix it?

[General Brave]

Well what exactly does it need.

[Stratego (dev)]

i ment: can u try to fix it?