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Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:21 am

We currently have implemented:
Undead
Dwarves
Elves
Humans
Orcs
Scalefolk
High chance of implementation:
Beastclans
Insects


Ones up for discussion:
Demons
Machines
Mystical beings

For demons i believe this should now be its own separate race considering all the units and stats suggested. And i found out demons and undeads work together to get similar goals but usually are always competitive over power and territory.

As for machines they also are fitting for fantasy.
Discovered in games and a few movies, they actually have them as their own race. In our case humans that believe machines should rule the world.

Mystical beings is a pretty obvious one why it was recommended

Here im wondering is their any more fantasy races out there and how many we plan to implement into AOF?
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:40 am

We really don't have a plan how many will be added, it's just could we added ir.
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Re: Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:59 am

Tbh I think all the ones I just named off will get implemented sooner or later.
What I'm really wondering is, is their any other fantasy race that was miss that can for sure act as their own main race.
All I can think of is a race from space that somehow still fits the fantasy theme
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Re: Current and future races

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:12 am

Hm.
1. I definately want to see warfell as their own race.
2. Few more ideas for races:
Outcasts - rogues, bandits, murderers from all races. Exept insectoids because i won't support this race.
I don't know what is hiding behind "mystical beings" but Celestial race - gods, titans, greater elementals - can fit nice.
Some sort of mix of humans with undeads maybe - as humans are the ones who began practicing dark arts of unholy ressurection.
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Re: Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:20 am

1.Never heard of Warfell before
2. Wouldn't outcast be a mixture of all races combined?
3.Celestial race was pretty much were i was getting at with the mystical beings thing
4 is heaven and hell not a thing in this fantasy?
Hell = demons
Heaven = angels
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:24 am

Not exactly. Demons as i thought is general name of all chaotic beings in this reality. Some co-exist in this realm with others, some came from other dimencion, some are failed experiments of fool mages and some are deformed elementals who wants to bring destruction.

Also it is harder to create nearly same amount of angelic units to match amount of demons i have in mind.

As for outcasts - they are mixture of all races exept of beastclans (because these are too wild for them), demons (because they want to bring only chaos and destruction while outcasts are searching their own place in the world), insects (because they are too hive and don't have own minds, also too wild).
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:24 am

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Re: Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:31 am

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Not exactly. Demons as i thought is general name of all chaotic beings in this reality. Some co-exist in this realm with others, some came from other dimencion, some are failed experiments of fool mages and some are deformed elementals who wants to bring destruction.

Also it is harder to create nearly same amount of angelic units to match amount of demons i have in mind.
Well in the end do you still want demons as own race? And yea it will be harder but "The heavens" or heaven beings are mentioned in every fantasy everything I know of.
Plus I'm sure alot of people are bound to mention it again when demons become their own race.
I could make a topic for it now, so ideas slowly build up?
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:34 am

There is a topic for demons and i saved all my work i made in first post of. I will continue them later.

As for "heaven" - i prefer angels to be as a part of mystical beings.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:35 am

That warfell idea needs to be considered more. Looks like its half to mostly done
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:36 am

That's because that's half of it, the other half I haven't shown anyone.
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Re: Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:38 am

makazuwr32 wrote:
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There is a topic for demons and i saved all my work i made in first post of. I will continue them later.

As for "heaven" - i prefer angels to be as a part of mystical beings.
Yea I saw it, I was against it at first but with research they can't be lump with undead as a sub race.
As for mystical beings can this have more of a holy theme to the race or you already have other ideas?
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:40 am

Maybe also use my ideas of "personal civilisation"...
I will post there soon more ideas.

As for mystical beings they will have 3 themes:
Gods and their champions (gods are legendary units) + angels, main type of magic - holy, light.
Elementals.
Titans – demigods, use elemental and holy magic.
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Re: Current and future races

Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:42 am

General Brave wrote:
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That's because that's half of it, the other half I haven't shown anyone.
Oh so it's mostly done?
So
@@makazuwr32 - demons
@General Brave - war fell
Damn, for my machine race or "Cyber" race to work I guess imma need help and time
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:43 am

It seems things are Brewing.
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:44 am

I think it's mostly done, or ready to be added.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:47 am

Seriously??
Would this be added after or before Beastclan?
Of course after all the balance updates
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:48 am

For mechanical race i also have some ideas but in a bit different way:
It will be race of the most genious engeneers and mages (human/dwarf/someone else) who constructs their machines.
Dearves and humans will have roles of mages and workers of race (they also will be the only race who can construct nearly all of their units) while their constructs will be infantries, archers, siege, flying and some even mages.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:55 am

makazuwr32 wrote:
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For mechanical race i also have some ideas but in a bit different way:
It will be race of the most genious engeneers and mages (human/dwarf/someone else) who constructs their machines.
Dearves and humans will have roles of mages and workers of race (they also will be the only race who can construct nearly all of their units) while their constructs will be infantries, archers, siege, flying and some even mages.
Like that idea, would this race rival that of dwarves when it comes to tech?
Btw ( human/ dwarves/ beastclan) I'm sure beastclan would have good inventors on their side too.
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Post by Lynx Shafir » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:57 am

I d rather see demons as own race after Beastclans is in.
For celestial being have some ideas what are not as angel and God theme still fit there and r playable not like God units (keep them away from this games)
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:59 am

Beastclan don't have good ones.
I am thinking more about elves and undeads.
They will have less blacksmith type upgrades (the ones that increase attack/armor/health) and more unit type upgrades as well as more special type upgrades (like add to unit additional action/speed/power range or just increase stats for one current unit)
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Re: Current and future races

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:01 am

Lynx Shafir wrote:
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I d rather see demons as own race after Beastclans is in.
For celestial being have some ideas what are not as angel and God theme still fit there and r playable not like God units (keep them away from this games)
I am calling them "gods" but they are not exactly gods.
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:05 am

Perhaps we should have any of those.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:08 am

Nice, but the biggest problem for machines is that alot units are gonna act as bulidings. Which apparently Orcs and dwarves would wipe out. I'm still figuring out a way around this
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Post by General Brave » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:10 am

That if they are considered buildings.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:12 am

Well true, but I would assume machines need a major weakness assuming their armor will be high.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:12 am

Not as buildings.
I already have idea for this.
Some will act as mechanical units, yes.
Others will act as summoned units.
Also another type they will have is new one - Construct.

Also their armors will be different. Some units will have 0/0 armor while others can have 10/10 or even more.
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Post by Tankhead » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:16 am

Construct? I do wanna hear more and I guess I never really thought of them not acting as machines or even being summoned for that matter
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Re: Current and future races

Post by Lynx Shafir » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:18 am

We can't work simultan in more future races.
Its causing only mess.
Also there are many to do with current ones.
Chose 1/2 and focus on them.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:21 am

I am still thinking about them but some mages will be able to summon their constructs thus "summoned" unit type.
As for construct unit type i am still thinking what they must be. Ofc they won't have weakness as buildings to nearly all infantries.

Simultan?
I am working only on current ones balance. After we achieve some sort of i will work on beastclans and demons.
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