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30x30 maps max size

Post by Constantin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:33 am

why I can not make maps more than 30x30. This hinders continued of my campaign.

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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Alexander82 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 am

I agree

Daniel can you allow bigger map size at least for campaigns?
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:12 pm

Sing lies,you can make 40×40 map. (Second Orcs-Elves war map in my Orcs conquest campaing)
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Constantin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:22 pm

Midonik wrote:Sing lies,you can make 40×40 map. (Second Orcs-Elves war map in my Orcs conquest campaing)
idk as you do its, but when I try to make a map larger than 30x30, the map editor simply forbids me to do this.

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:36 pm

Ran a few tests. It says 30, but you can make up to 40x40. It complains when you put in 41 or higher.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:55 pm

i strongly not advise to make bigger maps than 30x30, it is a pain going tru a 40x40 or a 50x50 map.

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:36 pm

Larger maps are alright if you're playing active players that try to take their turns more than once a day. Especially for maps with 4+ players. And I think 40x40 isn't too bad anyway. Anything bigger can be a long game​ though
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Alexander82 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:20 pm

Anyway it is not a problem for single player maps. Anyway if someone make big multiplayer maps you can just refuse them. Also AoF, unlike AoS, have a higher range for ranged units and that make it better for big maps.
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:20 am

Yeah, give an elf archer full upgrades, plus an outpost and eagle eye, it can hit all 4 walls from the center of a 20x20 map with its 11 range.
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:29 am

In big maps the walking speed is the real limiting thing, with 3 walks it is very annoying to march far.

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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Alexander82 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:25 am

To be honest i'm personally annoyed by maps that are too small.

When playing a race with many upgrades i like the game to be long enough to see the most of them.

A map that is between 20x20 or 30x30 is simply not big enough to make you upgrade your units to a good degree.

Since now we have pop limit i think it isn't a big issue to play big maps (you really don't end up with maps filled with units like often happened in AoS when playing with someone simply swarming archers and flooding it.

I would allow more of them.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:39 am

This is one area where AoF and AoS are very different. AoF has higher range on many units, more fliers, and more aoe effects. We have also deliberately made orc and elf tech trees that stack into 20+ turns for a single upgrade to max out. 29 turns is the earliest you can get level 3 uruks at many population, forcing 2 workers to build to speed up uruk tent build, and making the first uruk tent start the upgrade immediately. I'm hoping we can get humans and undead to this kind of upgrade system. There's more than enough to keep games interesting for a long time, especially when juggling cooldown on caster units.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:23 am

I can make some huge maps if you want. My campaing maps was mostly big,so I have some experience.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:13 pm

Someone know where "territory middle top" is? Its says there is not engoun free space to place tcs.
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:06 pm

Umm. I like the map, but my answer is going to ruin it. Middle top and middle lower are both dead center of your beautiful river.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:47 pm

make two big islands there and it will be fine.

in FAQ there is a drawing indicating the middle parts.

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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:46 pm

Ok,thanks,fixed.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:42 am

I send it to Daniel.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:43 pm

Next map: Dry land
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Those huge mountaines slow down fight bettwen players,giveing them more time for develop. Mountaines are mostly 10 ties thick,so theres no option to shoot over it. Archers will be really important here anyway,to defend aganist flying units that in such map have great advantage.
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Post by LordOfAles » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:45 pm

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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:03 pm

Daniel said thst there is not engoun playabke tiles,so I delete a lot of mountaines. Corrected version: Image
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:33 pm

yes, i suggest making 30x30 maps or about that. 40x40 is a tiresome game every time.

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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:52 pm

Well,as Sunrise said,its not so painfull if all players are active.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Lawrence » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:48 am

If you want to make huge battles, it would be nicer if you can play bigger maps
BUT if you do not like that, you would not play them, so i don't see the problem here.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:08 pm

Great ocean
Next map,this time naval based. Navies are faster,so big naval maps are better thought.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by Midonik » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm

Rock on ocean and small islands are great place to protect your ranged ships.
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Re: 30x30 maps max size

Post by LordOfAles » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:36 pm

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