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Kobra king

Post by ethanking5 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:07 pm

Cost 9
Hp 42
Attack 8
Speed 3
Sight 4
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Special abitities: consume another skaledfolk and gain half it's stats 4 turn cooldown, frenzy: must attack each turn or lose hp
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Re: Kobra king

Post by ethanking5 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:09 pm

I'm thinking like the king cobra cause it eats other snakes and maybe a dark brown color but I haven't decided on a weapon yet any ideas
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Re: Kobra king

Post by Puss_in_Boots » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:08 am

Not bad ideas for spell abilities, but how long does consume last? Permanent or temporary buff that can only be used until the timer is over? Also which stats does it take half of?
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Re: Kobra king

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:10 am

I think it is not possible currently to make ability that gives +stats from eaten unit and basing on them.

It will require big core changes for this so instead i suggest to improve stats of this unit (attack and action/turn amount, i suggest 12 attack and 2 actions) and as for ability to give for 3 turns +50% to attack, 30% of max hp heal and some dodges. Cooldown of abikity must be 5 or 6 turns.

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Re: Kobra king

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:35 am

we can give effect based on damage amount or based on kill and not remember what else - see the modding section for more info

eg. if it has an attack of 30 and target unit is hp=23 than target will be killed and the attacker can have +23 in its abilities if u like, eg: power.
but this is a permanent addition not an effect that can vanish - see how veteraning effect works on ork helmsmaster.

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oh i just see we talk about sacrifice not attack, for this we have Lich's "hell of pain by sacrifice"
that inflicts a damabe based on sacrifices unit HP using SACRIFICE_HP_AMOUNT in speccost (or SACRIFICE_POWER_AMOUNT)

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Re: Kobra king

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:55 am

The thing, @Stratego (dev), is that you sacrifice allied unit and gain (in initial variant) temporary some stats of sacrificed unit (for example 50% of sacrifice's attack and max hp which is added to unit's stats).

The problems here are 3:
1. It is not attacking spell;
2. Range of sacrifices could vary between scout bird (2 hp, 2 attack which results in +1 max hp and +1 attack buff) and olog hai (140 hp, 40 attack which results in +70 max hp and +20 attack buff in my example) — we don't have yet varying effects. Only effects with preset unchangeable stats;
3. Buff is temporary, so they must vanish after.

I think it is not possible to make such ability currently.

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Re: Kobra king

Post by ethanking5 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:56 pm

What if instead of gaining 50 percent of allies stats when he consumes Ally gains 50 percent of own stats for 2-3 turns how's that sound better
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Re: Kobra king

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:36 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:55 am
The thing, @Stratego (dev), is that you sacrifice allied unit and gain (in initial variant) temporary some stats of sacrificed unit (for example 50% of sacrifice's attack and max hp which is added to unit's stats).

The problems here are 3:
1. It is not attacking spell;
2. Range of sacrifices could vary between scout bird (2 hp, 2 attack which results in +1 max hp and +1 attack buff) and olog hai (140 hp, 40 attack which results in +70 max hp and +20 attack buff in my example) — we don't have yet varying effects. Only effects with preset unchangeable stats;
3. Buff is temporary, so they must vanish after.

I think it is not possible to make such ability currently.
as i wrote we have such effect
a) with one time effect (no vanishing - will remain) - this surely works.
b) also we can set to be an enchantment with vanishing - but this need to be tried - please a modder try it.

so i think both can work.

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Re: Kobra king

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:16 pm

So buffing caster itself when sacrificing allied unit by some % of sacrifice's stats is possible, right?
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Re: Kobra king

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:48 am

yes, possible.

i go check the rest, sorry, i am on holiday so i have limited time to so things.

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Re: Kobra king

Post by ethanking5 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:24 pm

So does it work
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