Demons

Here you can discuss what kind of races should be in the game.
User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:09 am

makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:53 pm

2. Melinoe - basic spearman unit of demons. Agile women who became demonical because of their husbands, pretty agile but fairly weak.
10 hp, 4 attack (standart pikeman bonus to cavalry units), 4 speed (sight 5), 66% dodge counter, 0/0 armor, 2 turns cost. counts as pikeman (so no bonus damage from archers and cavalry)
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:29 am

The next one should be should be worker basic warrior.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Tankhead
Posts: 1805
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Location: United states, Texas

Re: Demons

Post by Tankhead » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:44 pm

Why hasn't anyone thought of an Evoker.....powerful beings but im not sure what they would do here
"The smallest pebble was once the biggest stone, the biggest stone was once bigger"

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:17 pm

uhm in minecraft they are living beings, not demons.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:29 pm

It seems demons are accepted, someone should make a section of it.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:26 pm

There are still people that don't agree with this and think they should be subrace for undeads.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:50 pm

100+ units as a subrace for undeads?
I think it will be a bit too much for them.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:16 pm

If we exclude more than 70 units which will probably be ripped straight from warcraft, no, it wont be too much.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:30 pm

Just figure it out, will it be a suprace or a race.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:35 pm

Subrace. Too little diversity for demons.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:45 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 am
General Brave wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:17 am
Where are you getting these demon from?
Ideas you mean?
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:52 pm
If to be more correct: 10 units (and upgrades) are inspired by HoMM series; 10 by WC3; 20 by Titan Quest; some more (around 20 i think) from Sacred Underworld; 8 unique demons inspired by all these games; 10 campain only units (bosses and such); few more which i don't know what role they must have.
HoMM - Heroes of Might and Magic
WC3 - Warcraft 3

Also 3 are inspired by Dungeon Keeper
And also 100+ is only basic units. At least 50% will have upgrade (maybe not one) and because this number can easily raise to 200.
Also this info is outdated, because i have ideas of 20 more demon units and their upgrades (inspired by real myths and legends)
Last edited by makazuwr32 on Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:48 pm

There is a lot of species and types of demons.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:50 pm

It doesn't matter where are rippofs from, originality does. It would be bad if people seen aof like a bunch of mixed pixelated games, or demons as race compilation from other games.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:56 pm

I tell you stop ripping things off.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:00 am

Well first thing first:
Everything was created before us and it is ridicilously hard to create completely new one with no references to other games.

Humans, elves, orcs, undeads – all units from these 4 races are easily recognizable. Orcs were mostly inspired by tolkien (for at least 90-99%). Elves at early stages also. Undeads... from many games. And from myths.

Why this exact race must be completely different?
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:04 am

Then nothing is wrong here, unless it's be sue, I suggest some from myths and legends.
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:06 am

Many units inspired from titan quest were inspired in development of this game by real myths and legends as well ;)
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:06 am

Because i don't want demons nor angels in. They are supposed to be more superior beings than mortals and not to be on earth in first place. Seeing them fight mortals, and mortals winning, is just absurd. Some very weak units like lesser demon etc. As subrace are ok.
+ demons are ugly as hell
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:07 am

Demons are not superior beings. They are just beings from other dimencions. Not from this one. And they came to conquer it.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:08 am

If we have get demons we will need angels. And angels are superior.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:10 am

Why? Demons are opposite to mortal races, not to celestial beings like gods, angels... they are just another race like humans, orcs... with their own gods and ANGELS.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:11 am

Beacause if there are demons and not angels forums and multiplayer chat will probably get flooded with angel topics.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
Tankhead
Posts: 1805
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Location: United states, Texas

Re: Demons

Post by Tankhead » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:14 am

LordOfAles wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:08 am
If we have get demons we will need angels. And angels are superior.
So basically if demons becomes a race angels will also have a race? Seems a bit much considering other races still need working on.
Maybe they should be a subrace
"The smallest pebble was once the biggest stone, the biggest stone was once bigger"

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:14 am

Well... i must say that on this race i work much harder than on my previous suggesion of new race for aof.
And i mean creating lore and description of units.

Last spoiler - some demons are just artifical being created by human mages/some anomalies...
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:16 am

Alas IF YOU INSIST, @LordOfAles, i can work afder demons on celestial beings race (not only angels).

Gods, their champions, elemental lords and their elementals, angels, titans.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:18 am

I don't insist on anything. I want to point out that there are races more diverse and more fun to work on, like beast race or fungi one which was abandoned.
The Crusade never ends...

User avatar
makazuwr32
Posts: 4400
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: Demons

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:19 am

I don't like fungi. I have allergy on them.
I mean in real life.
Also first must be done unit type revamp and after implementing more stuff for dwarves, humans and elves (especially for elves because right now they are the weakest race of all 6 in terms of long games and they have no chance at all against any other race exept of themselves.
Last edited by makazuwr32 on Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
© by Makazuwr32™.

User avatar
General Brave
Posts: 4581
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:12 am
Location: The Four Point Military Academy.

Re: Demons

Post by General Brave » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:21 am

You're bringing out the Big Ideas are you?
Wise, Might, Loyalty. Forever stands Warfell.

User avatar
Tankhead
Posts: 1805
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Location: United states, Texas

Re: Demons

Post by Tankhead » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:22 am

*COUGH machine race COUGH*
"The smallest pebble was once the biggest stone, the biggest stone was once bigger"

User avatar
LordOfAles
Posts: 3659
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Location: Montenegro

Re: Demons

Post by LordOfAles » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:23 am

I still don't like idea of demons. They better left for undead as subrace.
The Crusade never ends...

Post Reply

Return to “Races”