M4 Sherman Img update IMPLEMENTED

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M4 Sherman Img update IMPLEMENTED

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:12 pm

Following other img updates, made some for M4 Sherman, the basic of lend-lease mass production.
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One for the Sherman "Jumbo", the most armored Sherman variant on WW2.
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Less armored than Jumbo, but combining reinforced armor, a better gun and a better transmission.
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Breaking the barrier of "work for the job" to "put the job to work for you" is a thing that i want to reach someday aswell... Probably i should make some notes about it...
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:45 am

Here it is the DD version replacements. @Stratego (dev) can you replace the current sherman img with the M4A2 one? And the old DD's with this new ones.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:06 am

thanks! the image is very nice (as your other designs too)

here i have suggestion: shermans had a very characteristic body, that is a sloped front plane and a slope to the back forming a triangle, i try to draw with red the line that needs a a little more emphasizing
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:28 pm

Thanks, well i made it having that in mind, it might be hard to see but it owns 3px from the highest part in the frontside and 2-1 to the back, it had the slope but it is gradual smoth curve, that was seen on them... Flat/edged slopes came with the Jumbo version... Btw, i'm bit unsatisfied with how i made Jumbo chassis, so i guess i will remake it just to see how it might looks using your guidelines.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:56 pm

Took more time than expected to finish the DD ones but here they are.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:59 am

we have only one sherman currently so for now i have in game:
- updated image of sherman (that was ment to be an M4 no sub- designation currently) - which exact type hould that be?
- updated DD images

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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:25 am

i am making the upgrades for all tanks, question here: are these shermans can be upgraded like
M4A2 > M4A3E2 > M4A3E8 ?

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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:32 pm

No, they are different branches of the same three. Like "DD", "Zippo", "kangaroo", and maybe "Caliope"...
Jumbo is heavy, well armored and slower variant, E8 has less armor than jumbo but bit improved than mass made versions, larger turret, better suspension and mobility. E2 being a cheaper heavy tank and E8 the upgunned version. So i think you should be able to choose both options to use.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update.

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:18 pm

ok, frm this is see this:
tank1: M4A2 > M4A3E8 (as u say it is only an upgraded thing on same cost maybe - am i right?)
tank2: M4A3E2
tank3: DD

i will need exact stats for XLS can u helo me with XLS data? you know what are those? here:
- production time from-to
- shooting range
- rounds/min
- weight
- min / max armor
- gun diameter
- gun amount (almost always: 1)
- speed (km/h)
- op. Range (km)



from these i can put to xls that will calculate all stats.
i would need it for all upgraded versions (i found none of the upgradey you nicely drew - that i know all data of the upgraded version to put in xls)
so please help getting these for the upgrade versions too - thanks! (same tru for alternatives too like JUMBO)

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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon May 06, 2019 11:22 am

please - thanks!
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Mon May 13, 2019 7:39 pm

Oh sorry, forgot about this... I believe you had already found something for them at this point, but i guess it would be nice to add the aditional information about the jumbo.

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/U ... sault-tank

- production time from-to
Early to late 44

- shooting range
Max range around 1650m. Effective range up to 500m vs panther/tiger.

- rounds/min
Around 14/Min

- weight
Around 38T

- min / max armor
13-177mm

- gun diameter
It can have the following armament: 75mm, 76mm or 105mm(howitzer)
Here we use the 76mm

- gun amount (almost always: 1)
1 primary,
1 or 2 browning machineguns as secondary.

- speed (km/h)
35km/h

- op. Range (km)
160km
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Thu May 16, 2019 12:25 pm

JUMBO: thanks!
Jumbo is in XLs and in game! thanks!
maybe the image of jumbo could differ a bit, they now seems same as normal M4 imho

*E8: what is the real difference in these properties between normal M4 and E8? (u wrote this: "larger turret, better suspension and mobility" but what does it mean in means of properties?)

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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Fri May 17, 2019 5:33 pm

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 12:25 pm
JUMBO: thanks!
Jumbo is in XLs and in game! thanks!
maybe the image of jumbo could differ a bit, they now seems same as normal M4 imho

*E8: what is the real difference in these properties between normal M4 and E8? (u wrote this: "larger turret, better suspension and mobility" but what does it mean in means of properties?)
Right, they are m4, the hull should be look alike (as you choose to add them with angled sloopes), but the turret is different for me, but i can change or add something else if you suggest something.

Well, that means that the mainly improvements it received aren't simulated in xls, and that it got minor improvements on the points it does target that might not be enough to change the actual values the unit have unless we do these changes manually.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by General Brave » Tue May 21, 2019 2:47 am

looking great so far.
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri May 24, 2019 9:23 pm

E8: what about making the stat a little like this:
- littel more HP (by assuming little bigger weight because of larger turret)
- a little more attack bonus (because of better suspensions so more stable aiming)

what do u thinkk?

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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by DoomsdayDragonfire » Fri May 24, 2019 9:51 pm

Sounds good
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Re: M4 Sherman Img update +IMG

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat May 25, 2019 7:02 pm

ok, M4 upgrade is also in!

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