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Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:40 pm

Variety of defense towers for dwarves

Crossbow Tower
Cost - ?
Hp - 45
Atk - 9
Armor - 1/2
Range - 5
Sight - 7
Speed - 0
Carry capacity - 1/1
Heal rate - 4
Construction B - -50%
Mend B - 100%
Spell R - 100%

Rifle Tower
Cost - ?
Hp - 50
Attack power - 5
Range - 7
Armor - 1
Pierce Armor - 1
Speed - 0
Sight - 8
Action - 1/1
Carry capacity - 1
Heal rate - 3
Constr. bonus - -50%
Mend bonus - 100%
Spell resistance - 100%

Sniper Nest (Upgrade version from Rifle tower)
Cost - ?
Hp - 60/60
Attack power - 6
Range - 8
Armor - 2
Pierce Armor - 2
Speed - 0
Sight - 9
Action - 1/1
Carry capacity - 1
Heal rate - 3
Constr. bonus - 0%
Mend bonus - 0%
Spell resistance 100%

Bear Farm
Cost - ?
Hp - 15
Attack power - 3
Range - 4
Armor - 0
Pierce Armor - 1
Speed - 0
Sight - 8
Action - 1/1
Heal rate - 4
Constr. bonus - -80%
Mend bonus - 0%
Spell resistance - 100%
Abilites
Spawns in bears ( with vanishing )

Bear
Hp - 20
Atk - 6
Spd - 4
Action - 1/1
Armor - 1/0
Range - 1
Sight - 5
Spell R - 0%
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Re: Dwarf defense tower Expansion

Post by Midonik » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:47 pm

VERY creative. Like palace all ranged units on a tower, and call it unit_name tower.
No race has so varient defenses, and there is no need.
I guess that current plus sniper one seems good, but change it's name - sniper nest maybe?
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Re: Dwarf defense tower Expansion

Post by Tankhead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:59 pm

Is the name "Sniper tower" too advance to say for dwarves?
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Midonik » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:02 pm

Not too advanced. It's boring and not creative. The fact you flooded this topic with ideas of defenses that all have such similar, ending with "tower" name, multiples it, and I now feel hostile to anything named like that.
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Tankhead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:07 pm

I see
Well ill look into different names
It'll be a help if you and some others help also
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Midonik » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:13 pm

Eh I'm against most of those but I will try:
Mortar tower - wait, don't we have an idea for stationery artillery that is preety much this?
Workers tower - (it's a fun unit in AoS, I have no idea how you see that working in terms of logic...) workers platform
Bear tower - bear farm (dwarfs just keeps some bears behind a fence and let them out in right moment
Sniper tower - sniper nest as I said
Rifle tower - shooting platform (speaking of uncreativnes, I use that word again... That name sucks, you don't necessarily need to shoot a rifle from "shooting platform")
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Tankhead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:50 pm

Artillery and mortar tower look different to me
In fact from the looks of it the Artillery tower is the strongest suggested tower amongst dwarves.

The worker towers can be logically a tower where workers are stationed to that tower and are ordered to fix nearby towers/buildings
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Savra » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:34 pm

Maybe change bear farm to bear den.

Rifle tower and snipers nest I suggest picking one of those and removing the other.

mortar tower and stationary artillery would be too similar, just combine the 2.

Crossbow tower could work as a means to keep spys out.

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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Expansion

Post by Tankhead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:40 pm

Ever thought just to change stats

Rifle tower and sniper tower is no different Rifleman to sharpshooter
I suggest just changing stats

Artillary is nothing the same with mortar tower
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:46 am

Turns out ill remove mortar tower anyways since its mostly too much of a copy of the current tower
In game

Also instead of expansion ill just put pack and place other existing defense tower ideas here as well
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:20 am

I merged Rifle tower and Sniper best together
Lynx made a good idea to make sniper nest to be a upgraded version of rifle tower so please check that out
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:28 am

I remove workers platform since dwarves have super good builders anyway
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:05 pm

Well let's calculate:
1. Current tower of dwarves.
2. Scout tower.
3. Cannon tower.
It is already enough. No need for over 9001 towers for dwarven main body.
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:07 pm

Variety of defense towers is something unique dwarves can have alone
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:20 pm

And they're isn't that much even with your dramatization

1.Cannon tower - not sure
2.Scout Tower - Watching enemies
3.Artillery - Strongest im guessing
4.Crossbow - not sure either
5.Rifle ( with upgrade ) - For long range
6. Bears Farm/den - Spawn tower

I wanna say have 2 to 3 of those towers be research so you won't have all at the beginning
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:35 pm

Stationary artillery i meant. Not a direct cannon tower.
It will have 7 range and 1 power range but it can shoot only once per 2 turns (slower fire rate, ability) and can use indirect attack (because it will have fireball-like ability with 2 turns cooldown only).

Also some towers can be added via subs. But in main body no need for such variety of towers. Even researchable ones.
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:08 pm

Will Rip my ideas
Ig ill just post the other suggested/existing towers
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Post by Lynx Shafir » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:18 am

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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Savra » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:16 pm

Thinking about it now, remove bear farm. Elves only got a summoning tower because they had no stand alone tower plus it stayed within their specialties, scaledfolks got one because theirs aren't very strong and sturdy anyway. Dwarves have already best defences they don't need a summon tower.
For summon towers:
Humans - No
Elves - Yes
Orcs - No
Undead - yes
Dwarves - No
Scaledfolk - Yes
The ones marked with yes have either weak defences, defences that can't work without a unit, or defences that don't have much offensive capabilities of are hindered.

Ones marked with no have decent/powerful defences already that don't need anymore assistance other then a wall. As for other towers they seem fine.

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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Tankhead » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:04 pm

Was talk over so none off them are accepted
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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by Lynx Shafir » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:25 pm

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Re: Dwarf Defense Tower Pack

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:37 am

It can be used for stationary artillery.
Just change color of walls to more stonish (grey) from this sandstone.
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