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Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon May 14, 2018 11:08 am

Helicopter
Buildable by siege workshop
Cost 3 turns
Health - 12
Damage - 4 (can be increased via researches to 10, has 150% bonus to air units)
Range - 3
No armor, can't gain any.
Power range - 1, can be increased to 2 by research.
Speed - 6
Sight - 9
Can see invincible units.
Abilities:
Bombs away! – launches bomb on target building dealing 25 melee damage. Cooldown 1 turn, needs to be researched first in workshop for 5 turns.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:03 pm

I really like this idea.
Dwarfs need a scout.
We could add a 6-7 turn couldown abillity "drop bombs"
with 10-15 damage with extra damage to buildings (yes i know what you think... I really like bombs)

I will try make a image for the unit .
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:20 pm

Actually that is wc3 inspired unit and i like idea of bombs. We can just make ability that targets only buildings but for 20-30 damage that ignores armors.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:26 pm

Awesome exactly what we need !!!
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:57 pm

Tell me your opinion.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:17 pm

I really like it...
but I am not sure
I do not know exactly how it will look with normal team color (blue, red, green)

If the colors do not blend nicely together:
I will increase the shadow levels
or
remove the team color and make it look like metal
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:27 pm

I don't like how this looks like.
I'll prefer less amount of team color at least or even just another model completely. Sorry.

Maybe something like this:
Image
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:37 pm

lol the image you just posted is even more difficult to make but I will try.
if anyone can show me how the unit looks in game please post the image here so I can see it.
Also i will try removing the team color and adding more metal.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:04 pm

This is a resprite of old model from Warcraft 3:
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:33 pm

I dont like that one maybe this ones are easier to make?
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:36 pm

lol :lol:
your image from Warhammer fantasy battles is the inspiration I used.
Just look the image i made.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:41 pm

Well the world of warcraft helicopter doesent looks easier
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:42 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:27 pm
I don't like how this looks like.
I'll prefer less amount of team color at least or even just another model completely. Sorry.

Maybe something like this:
Image

This is WC3 Remodeled Helicopter, not WoW one.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:50 pm

Sorry my bad
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:56 pm

There is also a logo of mod where is that model.
I really like this mod and especially dwarves there. too bad that work is going too slow - for now completed less than 20% of all models.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:59 pm

So what design should we go for? Or maybe make different helicopters
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:07 pm

I like the one i posted first more - it looks more Realistic than your images, especially first one where dwarf seems to be a 50-70% of all helicopter.
More metallic, less teamcolor, 2 rotors on the sides, i don't care about those exhaust pipes.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:10 pm

Well I wilk give it a try in the afternoon, and the helicopter you said was 70% dwarf google gyrocopter.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:25 pm

New image.
i changed the hair color of the dwarf (i can give him red hair)
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:29 pm

Tried to add a shining effect (without it look dull)
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:31 pm

i don't like look of this flying boat with few rotors still.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:33 pm

I will give it a try in the afternoon for both ideas
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:35 pm

Boat ?
Really.... ;)
Ok i will now start making the other 2 styles.
I like the model from warcraft 3 (i will start from there)
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:37 pm

Gral.Sturnn (make the images i will love to see them.)
i will now start with bersekers,rune mage and rune smith
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Re: Helicopter

Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 pm

I'll explain why i like WC3 one (even old model!):
1. I am an engeneer and that one looks more realistic as a helicopter (not as gyrocopter).
2. it has Skies for landing which is so far the best way for helicopters for landing.
3. Detailed and more realistic engines than your images have, @Gral.Sturnn.
4. This one REALLY can hold bombs (it has place for bombs theoretically). Your variants don't have, especially gyrocopter one.
5. Better aerodynamic than your ones, Gral.Sturnn.
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:47 pm

:lol:
about gyrocopter:
Well the dwarf at the gyrocopter have to carry the bombs at his feet and throw them with his hands.
he has a steam cannon at the front (this is why it looks like a boat).

also gyrocopters surely can not fly at real life

about Warcraft 3 helicopter:
i like the new image more and i will begin with it
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:49 pm

You cannot scrap it tough how about the gyrovopter be a lighter lower damage verision and the warcraft one be a heavy more resilent one?

Even though the bombs in the gyrocopter are thrown by the dwarf himself

Pd: gyrocopters exist in real life menselot
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:51 pm

really ?
wait i will search at google
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Menselot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:53 pm

wow i had no idea.
they look cool.
a dwarf is smaller than a human.
so gyrocopters will look bigger when a dwarf is inside.
ok my gyrocopter can fly ? (propably not? but still close)
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Re: Helicopter

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:54 pm

They look like funny mosquitos xd, but they were th first working designs for what later on will become the big ass helicopter we all know
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