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spahi - IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:25 pm
by balint
(in Hungarien it is called szpáhi, and I am not sure if it is the correct English name)

They were the turkish elite cavalry, equiped with long spears and bows.

Re: spahi

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:45 pm
by patroid
Hi
Maybe that as a unit that can do both.
And like the idea of other (like rage or forgit word
For bowman hide in forest and so on) "Rise bow"( cant
Mobe but shoot for one turn.

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:52 pm
by COOLguy
Spahi is right, I think. I think I like it, but what should it look like?

Re: spahi

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:54 pm
by patroid
Hi
They look like kosaks.

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:57 pm
by COOLguy
"Cossacks"
Is there a link to a picture?

Re: spahi

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:09 am
by patroid
Hi
There has been spahi in ww2 that looks like cossacks,
But the old one look a bit different.

A first image.

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:12 am
by patroid
Hi
2. Image

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:36 am
by Stratego (dev)
nice,
you know you can go up over the 32 px height with a few pixels!

Re: spahi

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:08 pm
by COOLguy
Yes, for the spear.
Looks good! :)

Re: spahi

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:52 am
by max-damage
Very cool!! Stats?

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:42 am
by patroid
BALINT please make a suggestion.

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:42 pm
by balint
Well.
hp: 20
armor: 4
pierce armor: 1
attack: 10
bonuses: swordsman: 100%
(and if it is possible) when it attacks a seriouslyy injured enemy it's attack doubles.

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:55 pm
by COOLguy
What's the cost.

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:16 pm
by balint
I always forget that :)
I think 3-5
because it would be some kind of mopping unit

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:10 pm
by COOLguy
lol :)
I would say cost 4. (I assume its speed is 5) It would then be balanced to the knight. (By which I mean a special sort of knight.)

Re: spahi

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:43 am
by balint
actually 4 is good. they were less used, because they were only sent n battle when the enemy forces started to break by the infantry.

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:24 pm
by patroid
READY TO IMPLEMENT??
Ok stats:
Cost:4 Turns.
Power: 10.
Health:20HP.
Armor:4.
Pierce Armor:1
Have Bonus against: Samurei 100% Swordsman
(also Broad and man at arms) 100%

Units that have Bonus against him:
Pikeman:100or200 i think Like knight...

Patroid

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:31 pm
by balint
yes, it will be on the vote.

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:34 pm
by max-damage
Umm...this is a specialized mounted unit, right? Shouldn't it's training take a little longer than a normal knight? Military special forces have to go through a lot more training than normal troops...i'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to look at the logic...if they have to learn the lance and the bow AND the saddle, that's a lot of training time...wouldn't you think?

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:37 pm
by balint
Well, no.
They were much like a mopping squad which destroyed the running enemy. They had kinda light armor and damascus steel swords.

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:40 pm
by max-damage
Okay...i was thinking more of the hussar units...heavy mounted shock troops...okie dokie..i like it, though!! :-)

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:43 pm
by balint
Actually hussars are not neceseriliy heavy units. for example the Hungarien hussars were a mix of heavy and light cavalry.
they used heavy weapons, but their armor was made from leather so they kept their mobility.

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:47 pm
by max-damage
I know, but they were mainly heavy-weapon shock troops in the middle ages...i know about these guys, my grandfather was Hungarian by birth... ;-)

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:51 pm
by balint
nice :)

do you know words in Hungarien? or is it just a story? :D
anyway, it is quite strange. I only know a few foreign people who have Hungarien ancestor(s)..
:)

Re: spahi

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:58 pm
by max-damage
I know a little, but i don't know how any of them are spelled...grandpa only spoke Hungarian, i never saw him write in it...he was only 8 when he moved to the US with his family in 1904....he died on my 16th birthday...that was a LONG time ago...I'm an old fart...but he used to tell me about Hungarian history a little...

Re: spahi

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:42 am
by Detros
patroid wrote:READY TO IMPLEMENT??
Ok stats:
Cost:4 Turns.
Power: 10.
Health:20HP.
Armor:4.
Pierce Armor:1
Have Bonus against: Samurei 100% Swordsman
(also Broad and man at arms) 100%

Units that have Bonus against him:
Pikeman:100or200 i think Like knight...

Patroid
balint wrote:Well, no.
They were much like a mopping squad which destroyed the running enemy. They had kinda light armor and damascus steel swords.
If they have just light armor they should not have more armor then knight. IIRC knights have armor 2/2. Maybe then go with attack 9, armor 1/1 but toss in high bonus against infantry, at least 100 % (to just barely one hit kill Swordsman with 18 HP). I would say like 120 % my be enough so Spahi can also one hit kill basic Broadswordman but I don't recall how those are healthy. And raise the HP to 23ish?

Btw, according to Wikipedia Spahi is French light cavalry while Ottoman cavalry is called Sipahi

There are apparently two types with multiple subtypes:
  • Timarli Sipahis: "They wore chainmail, rode barded horses and carried lances and javelins, and fought as medium cavalry. ... The standard equipment of Rumeli Sipahis of the classical Ottoman period consisted of a round shield, lance, sword, javelins and plated chainmail. Their horses were barded. Standard equipment of Anatolian Sipahis in the same era was a round shield, composite Turkish bow, arrows, kilij (Turkish sword) and leather or felt armor. Besides these, Sipahis of both provinces were equipped with bozdogan and şeşper maces, and aydogan, teber and sagir axes. Anatolian Sipahis sometimes also carried lances."
  • Kapikulu Sipahis: "They used plated mail, chainmail, round shield, sword, composite bow, arrows, lance, bozdogan mace and axe. They acted as reserve cavalry and bodyguards of Ottoman sultan and vezirs."

Re: spahi - ACCEPTED

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:56 pm
by LordOfAles
Is this spear ok?

Re: spahi - ACCEPTED

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:14 am
by MightyGuy
LordOfAles wrote:Is this spear ok?

It is really awesome, just change or adjust the canvas size to 32x length and 64x height and It will become super awesome!

Re: spahi - ACCEPTED

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:51 pm
by LordOfAles
Have i overdone it a little?

Re: spahi - ACCEPTED

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:16 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
Yeah, blade must be shorter than that.