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Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:12 pm
by ejm29
Im not sure what that means, but ok. :D

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:42 pm
by COOLguy
Daniel are you tired? :) Did not quite understand what you mean. But I think so.
I mean to say "Historical Unit" not "National", I wanted it to be balanced with the Spartan which is kind of the most expensive unit, with different abilities.
I like the stats put forward by ejm earlier with the addition of conversion resistance (BTW I would like Samurai to be resistant too, I just haven't mentioned it yet). We can balance them better later if we feel they are op or too weak.

I really just want to have this new unit in the game! ;)

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:28 pm
by ejm29
+1
I totally agree :D

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:44 pm
by Dgkfadomo777
+2 i agree too, :D

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:02 am
by Stratego (dev)
sorry for being ununderstandable.

what i ment: special national/historical units are not necessarily expensive in cost.

eg. see the Longbowman: that is a national/historical unit since it is a British special kind of archer - and only costs 3 turns.
so we can think of the hussar as knight variant, we can have similar properties with slight changes, we do not need to make him to be ultra-extra unit with extra abilities - however we can also make him such, but only if we want.

So my message ment to be only this: a special national/historical unit is not necessarily a costy one, it has different image and stats (some stats stronger, some stats weaker) then other similar units.

The "heroes" approach are the ones i can think of being much higher stats than similar units. Eg. an Achilleus would be unit with almost impenetrable armors or something.

The mentioned "Spartan" is a little a mixture of national/historical and hero units since they were all real heroes (at least the ones at Thermopule, the so called "300") :) :)

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:05 am
by Stratego (dev)
Another good example for my thought: in Age Of Empires there were hussars too, they have had wings too, they were upgrades of the light cavalry, they were cheap and fast but not so strong, a regular knight can hunt them down easily (since it has bigger attack and armor than the relative light armored hussars).

so it is not necessary to make such units them extra strong.

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:36 am
by ejm29
Ah ok. I see now. Thank you for explaining. :)

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:05 pm
by COOLguy
Ok, I see. :) That's good.

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:25 pm
by patroid
Hi
I love to see it in the game.

Patroid

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:04 pm
by COOLguy
How about these for final stats?

Cost 6
Hp35
Attack power 12
Range 1
Armor 0
Pierce armor 2
Speed 6
Sight 4
Action/turn 1
Spell resistance 100%
Size 1/1
Builders tc, stable

I edited ejm's slightly- they were very balanced anyway.

Re: unit - Winged Polish hussars

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:37 pm
by ejm29
They sound great!