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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Alexander82 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:21 pm

You should compare it to the horse archer (for whom i'm already making an upgrade and that also benefit from blacksmith's upgrades)
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:23 am

Ness wrote:But compared to slinger it makes more damage and compared to horse archer it faster and it is unconvertable. And it would make horse archer useless.
then lower speed to 5 and remove spell resistance and make attack to 4 to make it not too powerful

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Dgkfadomo777 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:21 am

It has weaker attack. Its use is killing two units about to die while horse archer kils a unit with more health

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:57 pm

Dgkfadomo777 wrote:It has weaker attack. Its use is killing two units about to die while horse archer kils a unit with more health
Agree

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Ness » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:12 pm

But mongolian horseman would do more damage in single unit too

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Dgkfadomo777 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:41 pm

His range would be less because he has short bow, and short bows dont have much power so total attacks would be a little weaker.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Ness » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:38 pm

Stats

Cost 5
Hp 18
Power 4
Actions 2
Range 4
Speed 6
Spell resistance 0%
Sight 8

Bonuses 50% to swordsman (and its upradges), samurai, axethrower and ornihopter

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:01 am

Ness wrote:Stats

Cost 5
Hp 18
Power 4
Actions 2
Range 4
Speed 6
Spell resistance 0%
Sight 8

Bonuses 50% to swordsman (and its upradges), samurai, axethrower and ornihopter
This is too weak. Make it cost 4.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Alexander82 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:14 pm

Ness i'm working on an upgrade for the normal horse archer.
If we make the mongolian horse archer too weak there is no sense for it
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Ness » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:12 am

But if it is too powerful it makes no sense.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Ness » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:19 am

Ness wrote:Stats

Cost 5
Hp 18
Power 4
Actions 2
Range 4
Speed 6
Spell resistance 0%
Sight 8

Bonuses 50% to swordsman (and its upradges), samurai, axethrower and ornihopter
Maybe cost 4 but chance to miss like slinger

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Dgkfadomo777 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:53 pm

These bows were very accurate, they were not known to miss

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by zteven2 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:36 pm

Actually the mongolians bows were very strong because of the wood and other materials they used to make them ex a group of Russians encountered the mongolians going to Jerusalem they were all knights with good armour but almost all of them died even with there plate armour these bows had a long range and also the same power if not more than a longbow.
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by RiverRaider 1097 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:17 am

I'm with zteven, this unit needs to be on the high end side of the attack with speed and power, not moderate? )
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by lordtalamar » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:22 am

The Mongolian ponies have short legs the are quick but made more for endurance drop speed raise hp.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:11 am

Maybe it should be a unit which cost 5 turns and has high speed and attack but low health

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by zteven2 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:04 am

Yes high attack and movement but lower health
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by dohtur » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:40 am

Maybe if we low hp - it will be good. It will be powerful unite, but with low hp. And we can give bonus to infantry against the magolian horseman.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Ness » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:30 am

I agree

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by RiverRaider 1097 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:10 am

Sounds good to me?
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by zteven2 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:18 am

Ya swordsmen should have a bonus and they shouldnt have a high miss ratio.
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:09 pm

Should it have armor?

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Alexander82 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:23 pm

edited the arm
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:22 pm

I agree. Increase the cost to 5 thats all
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Darkknight » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:51 am

Nice image.
TheBluePhoenix wrote:I agree. Increase the cost to 5 thats all
I agree too.

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:41 pm

The image is good enough
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Hardeep » Thu May 19, 2016 6:04 am

Compared to a longbow, the mongolian double recurve bows were beasts.
English longbow : Double recurve bow
Range= 228 meters: 320 to 350 meters (accurate, some say their best have hit targets at 500m :shock: )
Draw weight= 70-80 pounds: 100-160 pounds (average around 166 for most of them)

Get wrecked longbowman
We need to make some stat adjustments
Also the bows could pierce elephant hide at 320 meters.

Soooo, these guys shoot a good distance farther than trebuchets.........only 300m :?
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by patroid » Thu May 19, 2016 6:47 am

Hi,
Is he actual to weak for everything or do you want to create a op archer???

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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by DoomCarrot » Thu May 19, 2016 1:15 pm

What? These guys are perfectly fine and unique! They are great units that definately are unique and fun to play with, I just tested them out against First_Speaker the other day :lol:

No buff please, if they are not working for you, than you honestly just aren't using them right, I don't know how else to say it... :?

Also, yes you can shoot an arrow insane distance with any bow, but try doing that at horseback while firing an arrow every 2 seconds :P
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Re: Mongolian horseman

Post by Hardeep » Thu May 19, 2016 3:00 pm

Thats what they did though
I know they are good as they are, but historically speaking these guys were supermen with bows on horses. :D
This is just saying what they really were, I don't think they are just bad in the game.
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